organdoner
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after bros do the creatine, protien,nitro oxyde thing they usually go the prohormone route. then figure using real orals will take them to the next level. some even looking half decent. it's hard to tell a guy/girl to stick a needle in their body if they never done it before. hate me i actually encourage an oral only cycle for the first time user. the few and i do mean few who have tried it quiclly lost all improvements thus finally being convinced that injectables are a must. they LEARN from self experimantation. allow them to find out on their own. it is the best teacher. exelent thread aside all the arguing. but that's what family does. right?