Oral Anabolic Steroid cycles

[zen85]

dont tell him.

haha !!! i agree . if u are to lazy to research free info about pct u dont deserve to take gear .

 

[zen85]

people make less gains on Anavar (var) than they do on test because no one i know takes as much Anavar (var) as they do test . if some one were to take 100mg of Anavar (var) and 100 mg of test im pretty sure the Anavar (var) would produce stronger results .

 

[DADAWG]

people make less gains on Anavar (var) than they do on test because no one i know takes as much Anavar (var) as they do test . if some one were to take 100mg of Anavar (var) and 100 mg of test im pretty sure the Anavar (var) would produce stronger results .

lol swell deduction.

the only problem is that 100 mg of Anavar (var) a day is pushing the envelope for health / safety and 100mg of test a day will blow the results of Anavar (var) away .


you guys just keep dreaming and reading mens health lol.

 

[Hughes_L4L]

AWESOME sticky... now if only we could FORCE newbies to read this before they were allowed to post their ridiculous "I was thinking of doing wistrol or D-bol.. or both.. whats better?" thread...

A+

RAMAUDIO. Ok heres my problem. Ive been working out regularly and consistently for over 8 years. Played College ball and just finished up. Im 22 y/o. I gain muscle relatively easy. I'm 6'1 225. Bench 320, Squat 450, Deadlift 385 (Herniated Disk). I have a strong foundation of natural strength, never taken steroids before. I have good size and even have a visible 4 pack on the stomach. Im just tired of never being able to reach that "UNNATURAL" ideal Physique that is only obtained through steroid use because our frames, and genes only allow for so much natural muscle. I've done research on what would be best to take, I want strength, Hardness and that dry cut look. Which is what led me to think that a WINSTROL/DBOL STACK would be good. WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE ADDRESSING IN THIS POST AS COMPLETELY IGNORANT. I would just appreciate any feedback you can give.

 

[Hughes_L4L]

winnie is overrated it dries you out so newbies think it shreds them but the water will come back.

dont waste your time.

DAWG you say that Winstrol (winny) dries you out and the water weight comes back which makes perfect sense. The steroid world takes a lot of time and research which i have been putting in but i feel as though i reach dead ends in all directions. Ideal goals for everyone on here is good gains, and optimal physique with as little to know side effects as possible. SO WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND for some 6'1 225 16% BF to take, that wants the desired qualities of WINNY.

 

[DADAWG]

DAWG you say that Winstrol (winny) dries you out and the water weight comes back which makes perfect sense. The steroid world takes a lot of time and research which i have been putting in but i feel as though i reach dead ends in all directions. Ideal goals for everyone on here is good gains, and optimal physique with as little to know side effects as possible. SO WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND for some 6'1 225 16% BF to take, that wants the desired qualities of WINNY.

most steroids can be used to cut up . i always reccomend test for a 1st cycle because it is THE natural male steroid and can be used as the base of all future cycles . for people who are desperate to keep that dry hard look they only need to add aromasin to their test cycle to keep estrogen / bloat under control. winnie does NOT cut you up , diet does and if you dont cut calories on winnie then you wont get a hard dry look with it either at 16% . steroids main purpose during cutting is to help maintain lean mass while in a calorie defecit . with a little luck or a great diet you might actually gain some lean mass while losing fat as well. another thing to consider is even if you dont lose much if any fat but put on a decent amount of lean mass yo will look much leaner because your % will have actually gone down.

please realize that it doesnt matter if its a dry hard look or bloated look that look will LEAVE when the cycle is over , after you are off cycle the diet strictly controls your look.

 

[Beirut]

Wow....

 

[boostjavy]

please realize that it doesnt matter if its a dry hard look or bloated look that look will LEAVE when the cycle is over , after you are off cycle the diet strictly controls your look.

^ Fact. Good Info Dawg.

 

[BigTurk]

Nothing wrong with oral only cycles. Especially for those guys who ain't cool with needles. Just a bit of advice though, don't forget the milk thistle and liv52 cause the orals do a number on your liver.

 

[DADAWG]

Nothing wrong with oral only cycles. Especially for those guys who ain't cool with needles. Just a bit of advice though, don't forget the milk thistle and liv52 cause the orals do a number on your liver.

heres better advice wait until your vagina grows shut and your balls drop down so that you will be ready to run a real cycle with injectables.until then stick to midol.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

lol-midol is one wicked cycle!

 

[DADAWG]

lol-midol is one wicked cycle!

my patience is really thin with the newbies right now. every one of them as the following problems.

they cant squat because of bad knees or they cant squat because of a bad back.

they cant do injectables because they dont want their wife to find out or they dont want to add mass , just cut up or needles are to hard core or the real truth , they have a vagina.

they want to take winnie or var because their buddy told them it would cut them up or it wouldnt swell their prostate like injectables or their worried about their hair or etc.

this generation wants what they want when they want it and dont want to put any effort into getting it.

 

[Phatbastard]

heres better advice wait until your vagina grows shut and your balls drop down so that you will be ready to run a real cycle with injectables.until then stick to midol.

LMFAO

Sick um Dawg It sad that they don't take the time to educate them selves. After all it is there body to fuck up! There are a few that are just lazy but they are here trying to learn! Then theres those that are just ignorant and here to argue with those in the know. Sad but true!

 

[Phatbastard]

my patience is really thin with the newbies right now. every one of them as the following problems.

they cant squat because of bad knees or they cant squat because of a bad back.

they cant do injectables because they dont want their wife to find out or they dont want to add mass , just cut up or needles are to hard core or the real truth , they have a vagina.

they want to take winnie or var because their buddy told them it would cut them up or it wouldnt swell their prostate like injectables or their worried about their hair or etc.

this generation wants what they want when they want it and dont want to put any effort into getting it.

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey maybe if they Take 600mg test 400mg Tren E and 100mg Drol for 20weeks and play Black Ops all day rather then go to the gym. Cardio would consist of walking to cubard to get cheetos and coolaid.
They can dethrown Culter! What do you think?

Cause my knees hurt like fuck after Squating 525. or even 375 any more. But do I stop? Fuck no! Study what your doing Boys! Put in the work PERIOD. I don't give a rats ASS what miracle stack you or your budys come up with you wont Gain shit! WITH OUT WORK EDUCATING YOUR SELF ON NUTRITION AND WHAT YOUR PUTTING IN YOUR BODY.

For those of you that know more than the Mods around here and the other educate folks! Go start your own Site and take your followers with UUUUUUUUUU!

 

[Phatbastard]

lol-midol is one wicked cycle!

I stack Midol with Alcohol and Ibuprofin. Man what awsome pumps!

 

[footballguy12]

I've got to think that much of the oral only crowd are the guys that think a good spring training schedule consist of hitting the tanning bed 7 days a week, doing the pec deck and concentration curls only just to get "tone" while they watch reruns of jersey shore in their TapOut shirt sipping on NO explode and listening to diet advice from their bro who is NASA certified or whatever the fuck it is and really knows his shit.

Its sad but i happen to know a few of these fools. Some REAL douche bags if you ask me...

And as for dawg ripping the dumbies-you get em!

 

[JuggernautXX]

Need sum help on identifying if this apx labs Dbol is real. I found an old thread on here on it and they were pink but packaging is the same but mine are white got sum Winstrol (winny) from them too n they r white too

 

[Austbuilder]

Ty

its spring and every day it seems like i read another ORAL ONLY thread on 1 board or another , dbol only appears to be the favorite sure fire method to look good for spring break.

1st off i would like to say that theres is nothing wrong with dbol , it definately has its place . the same goes for var , drol , halo , tbol , etc. .

heres the problem with oral only cycles . the average man needs 100-200 mg a week of injected test if hes on hormone replacement therapy . if you start using steroids your natural test will shut down , even on var so you will lose the benefit of the test when you cycle.that means you will have to take in that much steroids JUST TO BREAK EVEN.on top of that when you come of that oral / dbol you will be shut down and will take several weeks to recover so you will lose there as well.

thats not a problem on injectable cycles because you will be taking anywhere from 2-5 times as much hormones or more than your body naturally produces . YOU CAN NOT DO THAT USING JUST ORAL STEROIDS. the health effects of massive oral cycles make running them just plain stupid and dangerous.

TY for the info mate, I was talking to a mate at the gym last nite and he was telling me how great a DBol only cycle with no PCT would be.

I actually considered the DBol only cycle but was going to throw in PCT because I thought he was a fucking idiot in that regard for saying no to post cycle therapy (pct).

Your post has confirmed this twofold and changed my mind about doing a DBol only cycle I wont be bothering, I will look into something else.

Thanx Again

 

[TheOracle]

its spring and every day it seems like i read another ORAL ONLY thread on 1 board or another , dbol only appears to be the favorite sure fire method to look good for spring break.

1st off i would like to say that theres is nothing wrong with dbol , it definately has its place . the same goes for Anavar (var) , drol , halo , tbol , etc. .

heres the problem with oral only cycles . the average man needs 100-200 mg a week of injected test if hes on hormone replacement therapy . if you start using steroids your natural test will shut down , even on Anavar (var) so you will lose the benefit of the test when you cycle.that means you will have to take in that much steroids JUST TO BREAK EVEN.on top of that when you come of that oral / dbol you will be shut down and will take several weeks to recover so you will lose there as well.

thats not a problem on injectable cycles because you will be taking anywhere from 2-5 times as much hormones or more than your body naturally produces . YOU CAN NOT DO THAT USING JUST ORAL STEROIDS. the health effects of massive oral cycles make running them just plain stupid and dangerous.

I think your theory is flawed based on my personal experience -

I recently did 60mg/week 8 week dbol cycle. Here in Aus bloodwork doesn't cost a penny so my doctor took blood pre cycle, then I went in around the 6 week mark and then again a month after PCT.

Now, the reason your theory is flawed is due to these reasons:

Oral only cycle doesnt shut you down to 0. My test at the 6 week mark was at 280 which was just under the lowest "normal range". Pre cycle #was 480, so a decline but not down to 0.

Secondly, MG for MG Dbol is stronger then Testosterone.

The above factors will Anavar (var) y greatly from individual to individual however being a 28yr old male I would say the above wouldn't be too far off for people in good health.

I won't go into cycle details - it was a great cycle but im not here to discuss the results, just to address why your reasoning is flawed.

Lastly, and this is from personal experience. I do not believe long esters / injecting steroids in general is worthwhile unless you adopt the cruise and blast approach which means you stay "ON" full time. I believe oral cycles are the way to go unless you take the above approach.

I welcome any discussion on my post.

 

[Koi666]

I think your theory is flawed based on my personal experience -

I recently did 60mg/week 8 week dbol cycle. Here in Aus bloodwork doesn't cost a penny so my doctor took blood pre cycle, then I went in around the 6 week mark and then again a month after PCT.

Now, the reason your theory is flawed is due to these reasons:

Oral only cycle doesnt shut you down to 0. My test at the 6 week mark was at 280 which was just under the lowest "normal range". Pre cycle #was 480, so a decline but not down to 0.

Secondly, MG for MG Dbol is stronger then Testosterone.

The above factors will vary greatly from individual to individual however being a 28yr old male I would say the above wouldn't be too far off for people in good health.

I won't go into cycle details - it was a great cycle but im not here to discuss the results, just to address why your reasoning is flawed.

Lastly, and this is from personal experience. I do not believe long esters / injecting steroids in general is worthwhile unless you adopt the cruise and blast approach which means you stay "ON" full time. I believe oral cycles are the way to go unless you take the above approach.

I welcome any discussion on my post.

Hey man, how long have you been cycling and what compounds have you used? Do you have a basis of comparison when you say that mg per mg, Dbol is stronger than Test?