i have a trainer friend who is contemplating his first cycle, deathly afraid of needles.
hes thinking an all-oral winny/var stack for 6-8 weeks, i've tried my best on convincing him to throw some test in there
might point him to this thread...
hey im sure im gonna get clowned for asking this, but i AM new to roids. i was recently given some dbol pills & was contemplating using em for a month. so the question is, if it's just a month cycle do i need to take estrogen antagonists like nolvadex? & run clomid at the end of the cycle? would 1 months worth of dbol produce any bad side effects like gyno? or is that more for people who use roids frequently?
every person i ask seems to have a different opinion. so i was hoping you guys could help me out please![]()
hey im sure im gonna get clowned for asking this, but i AM new to roids. i was recently given some dbol pills & was contemplating using em for a month. so the question is, if it's just a month cycle do i need to take estrogen antagonists like nolvadex? & run clomid at the end of the cycle? would 1 months worth of dbol produce any bad side effects like gyno? or is that more for people who use roids frequently?
every person i ask seems to have a different opinion. so i was hoping you guys could help me out please![]()
Thanks for all the info Dawg i was going to try out a all oral cycle of 6weeks of Dbol with novadex and post cycle Clomid but after reading your threads i'm not going to even bother unless i can get some good test now. Age29 Height5'11 weight 220 looking to reduce body fat while putting on lean mass.
I have read all 6 pages of the tread so far, so from my understanding I think I already know the answer to my question, but I will ask anyway. I was thinking about taking 50mb of Winstrol Tablets daily for 4 weeks, and by reading the thread I would need to take Clomid (Clomiphene) for about 3-4 weeks after correct? I will be honest I am at about 8-10% body fat right now but I want that shredded look and from my understanding Winstrol (winny) would help me get there.
My diet is pretty good I eat a lot but try to cut down on the carbs. I mostly eat lean meats/fish with vegetables, fruits, and nuts. I am 24 years old at 175-180lbs I am fairly lean but I have to flex like crazy in the mirror to see my abs. I Just want them visible like I see other guys have them, is it just there genetics? I have been working out for 3 years but only hitting weights for about a month have been doing calisthenics but was able to get significant gains with them. (Work out 5 days a week with occasional week off for rest/recovery).
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance.
As I figured you would say, what would you recommend to get shredded? As I read its all diet or at least 80% diet correct? What would a shredding diet consist of? Meat and Vegetables? Just water to drink? Juice contains to much sugar? Thank's again DoG.
I'm glad I found this thread dawg. I'm new to this world and all this sort of newbie info is positive as far as I'm concerned.
I have one question.
I'm not sure I understand your original argument. Let's say I run a var cycle and a post cycle therapy (pct) (nolvadex for example). Will I still get a testosterone shut-down. I read somewhere that you don´t even get a testicular atrophy from Anavar (var), but you'll still get a test shut down? And what do you mean by taking in that much to break-even? Do you mean when I run a second cycle I will have to take more than my original amount to get any effect?
But if I run 500 mg of test eth and nolva post cycle therapy (pct), will the shut down not be even more dramatic than on an oral var cycle?
hmmm...so what's the beef then?
And what about the shut-down when on 500 mg test eth?
Seems like your only beef is that it's a weak steroid, and the side effects are the same as taking test 500 mg test for example.
But you can argue that then you'll get rid of the risk of gyno and test atrophy when on var?
I'm just asking for opinions, I know people who are on var for cutting.
What would you recommend as a starting cycle for someone who wants to cut bf while gaining strength? Full cycle