Pinn or Z?

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tproz

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Ready for a second cycle..used Z first time around with great results from the euro line but have lately seen lots of negatives
But seen good reviews about pinn..feedback would b helpful...
Also has anyone heard of pharmacom?
Hopefully I'm not violating anything if so please remove
 
Personally I would go Z. Since he got a short stint of bad publicity on this site I would expect him to come back like a goddamn beast and raise everyones expectations of what a source should be.
 
Everyone here knows I'm a big fan of Z and I also do some work for him...

... but I'll tell ya what guys - I've seen brief moments of bad publicity over the last 1 1/2 years that I've been with him - and have been seeing false posts about him before my first order.

Actually, yesterday there was someone on another forum posing as him - saying not to order because everything was busted!

Anyway - before my 1st order, I knew there were way too many good reviews - so I gave him a try, and have been using him exclusively for 1 1/2 years.

Shit - at the time I was a newbie here and all I did was post my exact experience from every order ... "as a way to contribute to the forum."

All of my orders comes from the same batch as everyone else - and everything I've ever received has been spot-on.

Well, there were actually a couple times - where Z asked if I would test a new supplier - as he wanted some honest feedback on the product before he would release it to his customers.

If you go to his section of the forum here at Ology "Fitness Paradise World" http://www.steroidology.com/forum/fitness-paradise-world/

You'll see an announcement that he will soon be using Jelfa raws in his products - which is VERY COOL!

I don't know much about pinn - so I can't speak about them ... "but I strongly recommend Z."
 
Pinn, im in australia and even i got mine lightning fast. fuckin great. the shit is giving some great results, couldnt be happier
 
pin ftmfwww!!! imo the gear is better,also its been 2month wit z and still havent got my shit!! so you do the math buddy 2month? or 2days? for almost the same price!they talkin about jan and feb was bad month for us what about march? and what is apr gonna be?? just waiting on the beautiful letter from customs over here,mean while im on my 4th order from pin already "after" i made my z order! ok nuff said peace.
 
mr.spoon said:
pin ftmfwww!!! imo the gear is better,also its been 2month wit z and still havent got my shit!! so you do the math buddy 2month? or 2days? for almost the same price!they talkin about jan and feb was bad month for us what about march? and what is apr gonna be?? just waiting on the beautiful letter from customs over here,mean while im on my 4th order from pin already "after" i made my z order! ok nuff said peace.
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Pinn may be faster for obvious reasons, but I don't think you can scientifically state that the quality is better than Z.
 
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Z's stuff is all good. Testing has been done of what we currently have and all is good to go.

Also, Repo mentioned that Z will soon be using Jelfa as a source for his raws. This is great news. Basically, this means Z will be selling pharm-grade gear. Jelfa is a very well known manufacturer of human-grade drugs. It doesn't get any better than that. Without a doubt, not a single UGL will even be able to come clos to Z, unless they too start selking pharm-grade gear.

Already, Z's gear is very good, but discussions like the one you see in this thread are soon to be old news. When Jelfa enters the picture, no one will EVER be comparing Z's gear to Pinnacle again...EVER!

I am currently using Z's gear and despite the fact that I am a rep, many feel the same way I do, whuch is that Z gear is good stuff. As for Pinnacle being over-dosed by 10% (according to the manufacturer), where is the benefit in that when you have to pay for that extra 10%? All that matters is the cost per mg, not how many mg's are in each ML. Z's gear is all good, as he has been testing extensively, especially recently. His GH just tested 2 points behind pharm-grade according to the most recent lab work. The bottom line is that Z's gear is properly dosed, smooth & painless.
 
pin has been known to overdose products, so i would say it is better for now. what Z is going to do with the Jelfa raws, who knows. could end up being some amazing shit
 
mr.spoon said:
pin ftmfwww!!! imo the gear is better,also its been 2month wit z and still havent got my shit!! so you do the math buddy 2month? or 2days? for almost the same price!they talkin about jan and feb was bad month for us what about march? and what is apr gonna be?? just waiting on the beautiful letter from customs over here,mean while im on my 4th order from pin already "after" i made my z order! ok nuff said peace.
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Your gear was seized, buddy. 80% of all packages coming out of eastern Europe were seized during the time you ordered, due to a government operation which also led to two UGL's being busted....one of which was Oscaro.

After that, Z had to temporarily close shop just so he could catch up on all the re-ships. It was a huge ordeal and put Z (and others) behind for a time. There was nothing we could do about this. Z did the right thing by sacrificing profit in order to more quickly get out existing orders. You saying that Z takes 2 months to deliver, while Pinnacle takes 2 days is highly mis-leading! You need to compare apples to apples if you want it to be accurate

Z's normal delivery time for international gear is about 4 weeks (which is very reasonable), but Z's domestic line, which is NOW open, is only about 7-10 days.

Now, I realize that 7-10 days may not be the fastest out there, but it is still fast. Besides, I don't know many people who would complain about a 7-10 day delivery time.

Regardless, all comparisons to Pinnacle are about to cease, as Z will be using Jelfa raws soon. Pinnacle won't be able to compare in any way. Soon, anyone who does will be laughed at...as comparing UGL gear to Pharm-grade gear (Jelfa) is a bit ridiculous. Even now, Z' gear works very well and the lab work confirms it.
 
I am currently running Pinns Test C, Tren A and anavar and the quality is outstanding!

There is not one negative review anywhere on pinnacles gear and that in itself speaks volumes about the brand.
 
I've ordered few times from Z and never had problems with quality control. And I do blood work every two or three months. My last order was "lost in the mail" and Z quickly answered my emails and resent my order with no questions asked. I always keep a good staple of backup so waiting 4-8 weeks is no biggie for me.
 
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Be careful talking about seized orders and such guys, borderline too much info there!

I want to add to my above post. The z-line gear I have run in the past has been good.

When these jelfa raws hit the market quality will go to HG level! and that is going to be very hard for any other UGL to compete with.

As for today and current gear available pinnacle has the highest quality and best feedback.

I would actually love to see uncle carrying pinnacle on their dom line! lol
 
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