please critisize my first cycle

[Jordan3087]

weeks 1-14 =250mg of test enanthate every 3 days

weeks 1-7 dbol 40 mg daily (10 mg taken upon wakening and in 4 hour intervals)

week 8-24 anavar 40 mg daily (10 mg taken upon wakening and in 4 hour intervals)

week 1-16 arimidex .5 mg daily

week 17-18 = 100mg clomid daily, 40 mg nolva daily...plus anavar

week 19-20= 50mg clomid daily, 20 mg nolva daily...plus anavar

week 15 and on for a while....hemotest...nutrabolics testosterone booster

biggest question is after week 14 (last injection) do i wait 2 weeks just taking arimidex befor i start pct?

and is my pct overkill lol?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

moved to the appropriate forum....

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

weeks 1-14 =250mg of test enanthate every 3 days

weeks 1-7 dbol 40 mg daily (10 mg taken upon wakening and in 4 hour intervals)

week 8-24 anavar 40 mg daily (10 mg taken upon wakening and in 4 hour intervals)

week 1-16 arimidex .5 mg daily

week 17-18 = 100mg clomid daily, 40 mg nolva daily...plus anavar

week 19-20= 50mg clomid daily, 20 mg nolva daily...plus anavar

week 15 and on for a while....hemotest...nutrabolics testosterone booster

biggest question is after week 14 (last injection) do i wait 2 weeks just taking arimidex befor i start pct?

and is my pct overkill lol?

First cycle just stick with test.

1-12 Test E 500mg
14-18 Clomid 100/50/50/25

 

[drewbolic]

what are your stats
Give the board a run down of age,height,weight,goals you wish to obtain through AAS and training background,this info will help critique.

 

[Jordan3087]

20years old
6'1 190lbs 15.7 BF
goal enter a bodybuilding competition and im gonna be a personal trainer and wanna really have the "look"
all the other personal trainers/bodybuilders at my gym tell me i should take juice it would work amazing for my level of training and diet

i have great splits organized to complement all muscle groups and give great definition to individualize each muscle

 

[TonySuicideKing]

not to be a debbie downer or anything... but that seems like a shitload for just a first cycle. just my opinion is all

 

[johnnyreb24]

No sir. Your only 20. You need FOOD!!! But, if you wana do it. Stick to 500 mgs of Test for 10-12 weeks. Then clomid for post cycle therapy (pct). Your planned cycle is too much and way too complicated for a first cycle.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

You need Test every week during the whole cycle. If I read that wrong please disregard but a Test booster from week 15 - 24 is not going to work bro..

 

[newgoal300]

First cycle just stick with test.

1-12 Test E 500mg
14-18 Clomid 100/50/50/25

I agree with the above, test only is enough for the first one, no need to get complicated

 

[LAWNSAVER]

Ahh...what I wouldnt do to have gains like I got on my first cycle.

You are out of your mind and wasting money on all that stuff.

500mg of test a week for 10-12 weeks will yield crazy results. If you are wanting
to compete, you probably know your genetics are good.

I gained 24lbs with 200mg of primo and 50mg of Winstrol (winny) EOD.

500mg of test would have given me like 35lbs.

Test only for your first cycle. Save your money.

 

[Jordan3087]

ok im listening to you cause you got the bodybuilding photo of your self on stage lol but could you help me to understand why my cycle is to much?

i just believe anavar would help me keep my gains and its greatly increases collagen synthesis and cross elastisity of the tendon same as deca but i figured deca would be to much plus it shreds fat which is kinda importat to me i got alot around the middle i just naturally hold more fat then most ...also anavar has no mental affects and there is zero post cycle therapy (pct) required so i cant imagine this being to much??? other than the 500$ it will cost

dbol im under the impression you just take for 7 weeks and it kick starts your cycle with instant mass increasing protein synthesis 200% amd nitrogen retention up to 300% and i was also under the impression since you drop it mid cycle there is no immediate post cycle therapy (pct)?

umm another question people keep tellin me to find out how my body reacts to test by not takin arimidex...why the fuck would i want to wait until my test aromatizes...get gyno horrible anxiety and lose gains...im not some super being un affected by the aromatization enzyme i just have a funny feeeling lol...

and why would i have no need for the nolva doesnt it prevent estrogen rebound once i come off arimidex it allows my body to have estrogen in it but not be upsorbed a full dosage untill i taper off 40-40-20-20

 

[Italiano SPO]

20years old
6'1 190lbs 15.7 BF
goal enter a bodybuilding competition and im gonna be a personal trainer and wanna really have the "look"
all the other personal trainers/bodybuilders at my gym tell me i should take juice it would work amazing for my level of training and diet

i have great splits organized to complement all muscle groups and give great definition to individualize each muscle

Too young IMO bro. Your growth plates may not have closed yet. I'd wait another two years to be safe and as suggested, run Test only for a first cycle.

 

[Italiano SPO]

ok im listening to you cause you got the bodybuilding photo of your self on stage lol but could you help me to understand why my cycle is to much?

i just believe anavar would help me keep my gains and its greatly increases collagen synthesis and cross elastisity of the tendon same as deca but i figured deca would be to much plus it shreds fat which is kinda importat to me i got alot around the middle i just naturally hold more fat then most ...also anavar has no mental affects and there is zero post cycle therapy (pct) required so i cant imagine this being to much??? other than the 500$ it will cost

dbol im under the impression you just take for 7 weeks and it kick starts your cycle with instant mass increasing protein synthesis 200% amd nitrogen retention up to 300% and i was also under the impression since you drop it mid cycle there is no immediate post cycle therapy (pct)?

umm another question people keep tellin me to find out how my body reacts to test by not takin arimidex...why the fuck would i want to wait until my test aromatizes...get gyno horrible anxiety and lose gains...im not some super being un affected by the aromatization enzyme i just have a funny feeeling lol...

and why would i have no need for the nolva doesnt it prevent estrogen rebound once i come off arimidex it allows my body to have estrogen in it but not be upsorbed a full dosage untill i taper off 40-40-20-20

Don't listen to idiots. Take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle. High estrogen can cause lots of other underlying problems that are invisible to the naked eye....not just gyno. Having said that, I go back to my initial assessment....wait a couple years until you are 22. If you decide not to listen to good advice and do a cycle anyway, do Test only.

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

Good solid advice has been given pay heed OP.

 

[Jordan3087]

ok im listenening wait until im older and only run test....but what would the reason be for not taking dbol? why would this be "too much" like what would the consequence of doing this be

 

[Cam01]

no dbol. That shit is rough during post cycle therapy (pct). Makes natural test levels harder to come back up. Maybe for your 3+ cycle. Stick wit test and var for 1st cycle. Im running test and winny

 

[drewbolic]

Im not opposed to running test/dbol for first cycle,this is common first cycle.If you are mature enough and smart enough by doing your own research understanding the possible risk involved then I think its ok.
You are a bit on the young side but if your trying to compete it going to take a lot of dedication besides the AAS.
Good luck,my advice is to train natty and learn how to eat until you reach some where close to your limit while doing your research,read,read,read,search.

 

[KingCrane]

Im not opposed to running test/dbol for first cycle,this is common first cycle.If you are mature enough and smart enough by doing your own research understanding the possible risk involved then I think its ok.
You are a bit on the young side but if your trying to compete it going to take a lot of dedication besides the AAS.
Good luck,my advice is to train natty and learn how to eat until you reach some where close to your limit while doing your research,read,read,read,search.

Very solid advice bro.

 

[jreynolds20]

ok im listenening wait until im older and only run test....but what would the reason be for not taking dbol? why would this be "too much" like what would the consequence of doing this be

well you only want to start with test so you can see how your body reacts to just the test. so then your second cycle you can through in dbol and see how your body reacts to the dbol and if you start have crazy sides you know what the culprit is and you can sqaush it.

and dude that is way too complicated for a first cycle. just stick with test at 500mg/wk pinning on mon and thursday. not every 3 days no need for that and it gets confusing mon and thurs is pretty much e3d

 

[Jordan3087]

ok dbol will definatly b a variable i kinda have an idea on possible sides for it i cant find much on the net about sides experienced on cycle any input from you guys would be much appreciated i no one of my buddies who is very experienced with roids took dbol and got intense heart spasms id image from the insane amount of nitrogen retenetion in the cardiovascular muscle .....this guys also rips insame amounts of compounds at the same time like equipoise/tren-e-/sustaplex LOL!! but what do you guys think about my pct of clomid 100-100-50-50 and nolvadex 40-40-20-20??