Popular UGL - Under-dosed batch??

[gtpimp]

I'm not bashing the source or ugl in any means. I'm just looking for some suggestions here on what I can do..
I've been pinning 1ml twice a week for 7 weeks now with minimal if any results. Only a few pounds gained in weight. I have enough to bump it up to 1.5ml or even 2ml twice a week if this stuff is just under-dosed that much. I know the only sure shot way to know if its complete shit or not is to go to the doctors and get my test levels checked but that's my last resort. Just looking for suggestions here possibly going to try 1.5ml twice a week to see if its just weak. I figure its worth a shot right?

Euro-Pharmacies test-e
S/N: 11052011-20152015
EXP: 02/2015

 

[hardpr]

assuming everything like training and diet are in check. you should be growing aT 500MG A WEEK. heck im running 300mg of hg test and doing awesome.

 

[gtpimp]

I believe that! I'm just thinking this stuff is under-dosed. For example 1ml = ~150mg...

 

[jumpinjeff]

i've been hearing a few things recently about some dosing issues.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I'm not bashing the source or ugl in any means. I'm just looking for some suggestions here on what I can do..
I've been pinning 1ml twice a week for 7 weeks now with minimal if any results. Only a few pounds gained in weight. I have enough to bump it up to 1.5ml or even 2ml twice a week if this stuff is just under-dosed that much. I know the only sure shot way to know if its complete shit or not is to go to the doctors and get my test levels checked but that's my last resort. Just looking for suggestions here possibly going to try 1.5ml twice a week to see if its just weak. I figure its worth a shot right?

Euro-Pharmacies test-e
S/N: 11052011-20152015
EXP: 02/2015

just so you get my point: I had a friend (that shouldent have been using gear) use the same lab , batch and gear as me but ran it like 8 weeks longer and with Winstrol (winny) for about 5 weeks.
after about 14 weeks I saw him.. guess what, he looked like shit and liek eh never worked out in his life. and asked me what I WAS TAKING!!?!? same as him but less.
my point is if you just started working ouy it may be yoru training and/or diet.. not gear.
just thought Id point that out.
steroids ARE NOT gonna just MAKE you big. sure they will help but without years of dedication there is no point to using them.

 

[gtpimp]

Ive been working out for 5 years straight with the biggest break being a week. This is my first test cycle but I've taken a few pro-hormone cycles in the past with awesome gains and I've kept a good amount of them. So don't bash me man I've done my homework I have a pretty good knowledge base here about what I'm doing.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I just checked your posts, seems this is your first cycle?(you may expect too much, Im happy with 15-20 LBS if REAL LEAN muscle a YEAR, 8-10lb a 14wk cycle not counting water and fat is a A+ and have gained like 40lb over the last 5 yrs and lost most all body fat cept when bulking it gos up a little bit)
How long have you been bodybuilding/ working out heavly?

 

[gtpimp]

I've spoken to Mike Arnold and he tells me that others have been having the same issues with this product so I'm just trying to find out if its a totally trashed batch or just under-dosed.

 

[Four1Thr33]

Not A fan of that lab. I had to step my 400(sparten) to 600(euro)to have any additional gains

 

[Four1Thr33]

I hope they help u. No one helped me. Z said he would check into it and I never herd from anyone again

 

[jupiterak]

I highly recommend u get bloodwork done. There's been a lot of bashing lately and fingerpointing but nothing to back it up on the accusations from some people on this board

 

[kamikaze]

I agree with Jupiterak, blood work will back your claim up and you can take it up with your rep.

 

[italian1]

Fucking awesome. Just got my stuff after a three month waiting period and it has the same batch number on it. Yo OP did you get it shipped dom or int. Mine came int. I would think if yours was dom it shouldn"t have the same #.

 

[cokezero]

I believe that the source will get things taken care of. But everyone can say you cant bash gear without bloodwork. I will say this. I'm not new this sport and def not new to steroids. I know of 3 people right now that have been running the same exact gear and after 10 weeks not a single gain. Bloodwork or not the gear is no good. Or all the sudden steroids don't work like they use to. This was my 5th or 6th cycle and it was another guys 1st cycle and the results are the same. Stay on z or contact mike arnold and I think they will make things right but as far as your gear it is trash. Start reading all the post on here they are popping up daily. Just fyi, the guy in our gym running pinnacle is pretty jacked right now. He is making us look bad.

 

[zomg1234]

Got the same batch :/ damn looks like I'm gonna have to PM Mike or Z, I've been hearing a lot of good about Pinnacle and other labs recently if this doesn't get sorted out I might have to switch.

 

[italian1]

Bump

 

[hard2gain]

This really bothers me... If all these people are so convinced this stuff is so under dosed why is there not a single blood test to show it. I would bet if you spent the $50 to get tested and have proof to back this up Z would make it right.

But as of right now you don't have shit to back anything up.

 

[davidslaton19]

WHENEVER you take UGL gear, you are playing a dice game. Human Grade Pharmaceutical is obviously the best option, but it is also very expensive. If the gear came from a pharmacy, you can bet that is good.
Veterinary would be the next best thing. Here in Mexico, it is only available in 50 mg per ml as the maximum dosage, regardless of the ingredient, but you KNOW it is 50 mgs per ml, and they are made by real pharmaceutical companies. I would rather take gear that I KNOW is 50 mgs per ml, than to take gear that is labeled 300 mgs per ml, but you have no way of knowing. You can also call the number on the bottle and verify the gear yourself.
Underground lab? It is made in someone's house, not in a clean room, the person making it may have little or no training, and there is no regulation on it. It may be high dosed, low dosed, or no ingredient whatsoever. You also open yourself up to the possibility of infection.

 

[jadakiss]

this really bothers me... If all these people are so convinced this stuff is so under dosed why is there not a single blood test to show it. I would bet if you spent the $50 to get tested and have proof to back this up z would make it right.

But as of right now you don't have shit to back anything up.

+1

 

[timbo357]

hard2gain and jadakiss try telling these guys who have no gains off of the test they bought that they don't have shit sounds to me like they got plenty of shit to fuel a fire like getting ripped off buying bunk gear.