Popular UGL - Under-dosed batch??

Yep Im off and donated blood all is good now, Thx for caring Zeek appreciate it
I saw it and added aspirin and extra fish oil as well
 
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Sorry it's my English plus I think too fast and type too slow..

what I meant is that I'm fed up with complains/attacks on me without a proof without lab test or blood test with just their feeling that it's underdosed......
look even blood test can soetimes went wrong look at latest Heavyiron post and his HGH testing .... I'm sure that most reliable test is lab test - theyknow what they are testing an they do it on actual product not o blood - I might be wrong but thats how I see it

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that's why EP test e and test c will be send to lab for proper testing

z.
 
I dont post here much but just wanted to put my 2cents in. I was pinning some EP testE at 500mg EW. After about 8 weeks I got tested. My test showed results that the gear wasnt bunk but might have been undrdosed. My test levels were a little over 1800. Blood was drawn 48hrs after my last pin. I now understand that this was NOT correct protocol for the testing.
Long story short, I NEVER questioned the quality of Z's gear. The tests were taken for my own well being and NOT to question the gear. After the results of my tests were posted (on IM) the Z team had no problem sending me some more gear to have tested.

That says alot to me about the way Z runs his bussiness. I explained that it would be alittle while before I was back "ON" but when I run the new stuff I will get tested again and post the results.

Well today 2jugs of Prop and 2jugs of TestE showed up. They are all "Z-Line" and look real yummy.

A big thank you to the Zteam for allowing me to be a part of the testing for their gear.
 
If people are being honest, Z is and and always has been a completely stand up operator. Circumstances relevant to ANY AND ALL intl shippers crop up from time to time, but as to consistent quality of gear he always comes through and if there's any question as to an isolated batch's quality he's never stuck his head in the sand.
 
just so you get my point: I had a friend (that shouldent have been using gear) use the same lab , batch and gear as me but ran it like 8 weeks longer and with Winstrol (winny) for about 5 weeks.
after about 14 weeks I saw him.. guess what, he looked like shit and liek eh never worked out in his life. and asked me what I WAS TAKING!!?!? same as him but less.
my point is if you just started working ouy it may be yoru training and/or diet.. not gear.
just thought Id point that out.
steroids ARE NOT gonna just MAKE you big. sure they will help but without years of dedication there is no point to using them.

That sums it all up right there!!!
 
Just a question for my own ignorance. How exactly would a blood test prove something was under dosed?

People in the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) area using 175 to 300mg ew have results over 1500, so as long as the dosage was over that wouldn't it show >1500? Because labcorp doesn't show the actual level, it could be 1501 or 3500. At 500mg ew shouldn't the level be around 3500-4000?

Not bashing Z, just saw this thread and wanted to ask.
 
I got lab work while running 500mg/wk on this batch, I will be posting the results if the situation is not resolved in a timely manner.
 
I got lab work while running 500mg/wk on this batch, I will be posting the results if the situation is not resolved in a timely manner.

Dumb question but:

what exactly would you ask your doctor if you wanted to get blood work done to see your test levels?

would you just ask him/her "i'm curious to see my test levels" then when the work comes back he'll know you're on someting! :D
 
I will be doing blood work with mine and post the results for before and mid cycle levels.

Before levels to know what I had and mid cycle levels to see the increase.
 
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