prami questions

atlninja82

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hey guys i just started prami 2 days ago. I have been taking .25 mgs at bedtime ed. I have trouble sleeping with this stuff. here are my questions, maybe someone can chime in that has some experience with this drug.

1. how long should I take it for? ( im taking it to reduce a small ammount of gyno, puffy nips, lactation, and to get my sex drive back)

2. do I have to taper off? will not tapering off cause a rebound in prolactin?

3. how long will it take to get my prolactin levels down and my sex drive back(if prolactin is the culprit)

i appreciate it,
-eric
 
Take it in the morning. You may have to increase your dosage to .50mg ed


How long it takes for your sides to go away depends on the individual.

What are you on?
 
im not on anything right now. i went on a ph cycle and did an otc post cycle therapy (pct) product and it didnt really help. so i hopped on nolva and when i came off I had high estro and my prolactin was rising every time I got blood work done after nolva. so Im just trying to get my sex drive back and get the puffy nips away. at first I couldnt even get it up but now I can have solid erections but sex drive still isnt there and its killin me. It takes forever for me to get aroused too so im taking an educated guess and saying its my prolactin. but I think im gonna try taking it in the morning from now on. is it bad to drink while on this?
 
I wouldnt drink at all. It will not help recovery.

Its probabl a combo of high estro and prolactin.

What was your testosterone level?
How old are you?
 
..good question s ^^^^
IMO over the counter product s suck as a rule. When one does really work it s yanked...but my gym is full of dude s who make marginal gain s from ph but suffer full blown side s like aas.
I truelly wish you well dude.
 
I wouldnt drink at all. It will not help recovery.

Its probabl a combo of high estro and prolactin.

What was your testosterone level?
How old are you?

im 19. here are my last sets of bloodwork

bloodwork #1 ( on tamoxifen )
testosterone, serum- 1029 ng/dl (280-800)
free testosterone- 24.9 pg/ml (9.3-26.5 pg/ml)
LH- 18.0 (1.7-8.6)
FSH- 11.6 (1.5-12.4)
TSH- 1.630 (0.450-4.500)
Estrodial- 48.3 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
prolactin- 9.3 ng/ml (4.0-15.2)
estrogens, total- 110 (40-115)

bloodwork #2 ( 17 days post tamox)
testosterone, serum- 730 ng/dl (280-800)
free testosterone- 18.3 pg/ml (9.3-26.5 pg/ml)
LH- 7.8 (1.7-8.6)
FSH- 5.5 (1.5-12.4)
Estrodial- 46.6 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
prolactin- 10.9 ng/ml (4.0-15.2)

bloodwork #3 ( approximately 2 months post tamox probably a little less)
Total test- 535 ng/dl
free test- 9.9 pg/ml
LH- 5.2 miu/ml
FSH- 3.1 miu/ml
total estrogens-80
estrodial-30.4
prolactin 12.1 ng/ml


note- see how my prolactin keeps rising? I know its not out of range or anything but its obviously elevated if im lactating. so this is what led me to believe elevated prolactin was causing the rest of my symptoms. mainly low libido. the rest i can deal with but not having a sex drive just sucks.



..good question s ^^^^
IMO over the counter product s suck as a rule. When one does really work it s yanked...but my gym is full of dude s who make marginal gain s from ph but suffer full blown side s like aas.
I truelly wish you well dude.


yea they do. I didnt know anything about ph's until I started having these symptoms and started to do my own research. I think its crazy so many people take these PH's and dont take them seriously just because you can buy them otc.
 
Oh..you are lactating? Jump on that prami asap! Its definitely the prolactin. I think the problem is that its on the high end along with the estro.

A low dose of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to lower estro will also help lower prolactin
 
yea i have been lactating for a while. I have been taking letro as well. i started on .25 mgs ED for 5 days and then started .25 mgs EOD for 6 days and now im doing E3D .25 mgs. I dont have a serm to help with rebound so Im just tapering off of it slowly. Im on day 3 of the prami right now. today will be my first time taking it in the morning and not before I go to bed so well see how that goes. Do I need to taper off prami? and how long do you think it will take to start seeing libido increasing effects?
 
Hell that letro may be reducing your estrogen to much. If you are lactating its directly related to prolactin levels. Reducing your estrogen to much will add to your limp dick situation.

Your estrogen is not that high. I am not a fan of letro its just to strong. It should be reserved for gyno reversal. You dont have gyno just lactating nipples.

I was going to suggest .25mg of aromasin eod along with your prami.

.25mg ED for 5 days of Letro off cycle with estrogen just in the high normal range just is not smart.

Yes you should work up your dosage slowly and taper off the prami.

Any noticeable sides from the prami and reduce back down to .25mg ED.

Prami .25mgED then try .50mg if needed after 5-7 days would be my advice.
 
Hell that letro may be reducing your estrogen to much. If you are lactating its directly related to prolactin levels. Reducing your estrogen to much will add to your limp dick situation.

Your estrogen is not that high. I am not a fan of letro its just to strong. It should be reserved for gyno reversal. You dont have gyno just lactating nipples.

I was going to suggest .25mg of aromasin eod along with your prami.

.25mg ED for 5 days of Letro off cycle with estrogen just in the high normal range just is not smart.

Yes you should work up your dosage slowly and taper off the prami.

Any noticeable sides from the prami and reduce back down to .25mg ED.

Prami .25mgED then try .50mg if needed after 5-7 days would be my advice.

shit really? I knew letro was strong but I thought .25 mgs was a really low dose so it would be ok. am I safe from estrogen rebound? And I dont have limp dick anymore but its just the libido thats kilin me. I will admit my sex drive got worse than it already was when i got on letro. well actually at first it got better then it got worse. ok I will do that with prami but do you mind giving me a standard protocol of tapering off of prami. and how long should I stay at .5 before I start tapering?

thanks so much for the help,
-eric
 
If you up the dosage to .50mg I'd just taper down to .25mg for a week then stop. If you stay at .25mg I think you would be safe to just discontinue use.

maybe ill do a week of .25 ed and then do a week of .25 eod just to be safe. any idea how long it will take to make the nips stop lactating? im on day 4 and they are still milkin. and i still havent noticed any difference in my sex drive.
 
alright just a little update for those who care. i upped my doseage to .25 mgs in the morning and .25 mgs at night and the lump in my left nipple has decreased almost half the size it was! i was amazed. but the one in my right nipple may have decreased a little. if it has i cant notice it. they are still puffy. still no sex drive :( fml. hopefully this shit kicks my sex drive back into gear. ill keep yall updated. oh yea and my sleep is getting better. no other side effects as of now
 
hey guys another update. ive been off letro for about a week now. i think im having rebound because my nipples are really puffy. should i jump back on the letro?
 
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