Question about a Winni/Deca cycle...

Off Road

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I was recommended to go on a Winni (50mg) tab ED and a Deca (inject once a week) for 10 weeks. I realize that many recommend some sort of Test product but I'm also new to this and wanted to start a cycle with very few if any side affects and did not want to gain BF, but as much pure muscle as possible (slow but constant gains).
I've read that Deca very quickly shuts down normal Test production, so should I also incorporate Arimidex or something similar during the cycle? (money is always an object, so I would like to do this cycle the most cost effective but safest way possible).
Is there another product that has a mimimal angrogenic/estrogenic effects that will compliment Winni? I chose Deca because of the mimimal effects although some.
I figured I would do 1 tab (half morning/half evening) Winni
Every 7th day a shot of Deca Durabolin
On the 10th week, start with HCG for 7 to 10 days
After the 7 to 10 days, go with Clomid 50mg (2 ED for the first week then 1 ED for the next 2 weeks) for an additional 3 weeks.

I've read that Deca stays in the system for aproximately 3 weeks after the last dose (I know it stays much longer but in trace amounts), so would the above be very affective and cost effective?
Your help and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

BTW, should I stop the Deca on the 8th or 9th week, or go for the full 10 weeks then go directly into the HCG?
I am currently 31
5'10.5
180lbs
Approx 12.5% bf
 
welcome to ology off road . read all the goodies stonecoldnto suggested bro its good info
 
I read the post and thank you for the link. I still wish to stick with my above post and would appreciate any guidance along those lines. I have done ProHormones before (a few times) and so this would be my first REAL stack but by no means my first program ever.
Thanks again!
 
You say you want to run a cycle with few if any sides, yet you choose Winstrol (winny). Back to the drawing board.
 
test does have some sides but they are easily controlled .deca is much harder to recover from than test also deca gyno is much harder to deal with for most people than test gyno besides the fact 99% of people dont get gyno from the kinds of test doses we usually reccomend for a first cycle . as far as hair i can take a quart of test and wont shed my hair but after a few winnie pills my hair starts shedding like crazy besides theres plenty of shampoos out there with meds in them to prevent that if you do lose hair from the test . acne is something that is also controllable , worst case prescriptions meds may be needed
 
I am no expert, but I recently did a deca/winstrol cycle. 300 mg ew for 8 weeks (actually it was a little more because I did the whole 10 ml bottle) and winstrol 1cc eod for 8 weeks.

I am not giving advice, but will share my experience. When I started the cycle my body fat was too high. I did a low carb diet throughout the cycle, and lost a good amount of fat. I lost about ten pounds during the cycle, brought my waste from a 38 to a 34, but the size of my shoulders, chest etc increased.

I was very happy with the strength gains, and overall was happy with the cycle. Mind you, I had never done a test cycle.

I didn't really notice it at the time, but I think the winstrol may have thinned my hair a bit. I am 42 though. I foolishly did not do any post cycle therapy (pct) and shut down hard. Mr. Happy went into a coma and remained in a coma for more than a month. Post cycle I didn't lose much strength or weight.

I jumped into this cycle blind and ignorant. I do not regret doing it, but had I known then what I know now, I would have started with a test cycle.
 
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