Raloxifene during cycle question.

[killchill]

I'm currently started taking ralox for some flared up lumps I had from my teens during my blast.

From my understanding it blocks the estrogen from binding to the breast tissue.

So hypothetically someone can run ralox alone or with mininal AI dose, let their e2 get to the high end and not develop gyro or flare ups?

Of course I'm not taliking about the other high e2 sides like bloat, etc, I know ralox does nothing for reducing e2. I'm just talking about breast tissue alone.

I'm asking this because if that's the case I might just go back to my trt AI dose and let my e2 raise a little more than usual, my bad hip really doesn't like liquidex.


Oh and happy new years everyone.

 

[omgmike1]

I'm currently started taking ralox for some flared up lumps I had from my teens during my blast.

From my understanding it blocks the estrogen from binding to the breast tissue.

So hypothetically someone can run ralox alone or with mininal AI dose, let their e2 get to the high end and not develop gyro or flare ups?

Of course I'm not taliking about the other high e2 sides like bloat, etc, I know ralox does nothing for reducing e2. I'm just talking about breast tissue alone.

I'm asking this because if that's the case I might just go back to my trt AI dose and let my e2 raise a little more than usual, my bad hip really doesn't like liquidex.


Oh and happy new years everyone.

U can run Nolva or ralox for gyno prevent OR gyno Reversal.

Both can be ran during a cycle for either of the above, but after discussion with guys on this board. I found out Nolva reduces IGF1 by 25% and Ralox does it by 2%. Ralox is much more efficient as well. I would only run Nolva during PCT tbh and as a last resort during cycle if u only have it on hand. Ur better off stocking up on ralox.

Keep running AI's during cycles. U could run ralox instead, but ur e2 will still build up and u know as they say: high e2 is just as bad as low e2. Plus think of the BP spikes u will have and water retention. Which can be all fixed with a proper AI procedure.

I don't know too much btw adex and stane, but I have read from other posts that stane A.K.A aromasine is much more forgiving compared to adex in terms of sides that the AI's cause. So it might be worth ordering some of it and run it instead of adex if it's bothering u. For me personally, I never had a issue with adex at all, except when it crashed my e2, which was not really the fault of adex, but more of the gear I ran. Other than that, it's been good to me.

 

[JimiThing]

I'm currently started taking ralox for some flared up lumps I had from my teens during my blast.

From my understanding it blocks the estrogen from binding to the breast tissue.

So hypothetically someone can run ralox alone or with mininal AI dose, let their e2 get to the high end and not develop gyro or flare ups?

Of course I'm not taliking about the other high e2 sides like bloat, etc, I know ralox does nothing for reducing e2. I'm just talking about breast tissue alone.

I'm asking this because if that's the case I might just go back to my trt AI dose and let my e2 raise a little more than usual, my bad hip really doesn't like liquidex.


Oh and happy new years everyone.

This sounds so crazy to me for one reason and one reason only....Im old.
What the hell does that mean? Well I was actually around before ai's when we transitioned from just serms on cycle to using ai's to manage e2. To me that has been one of the biggest and best advances made in BBing in the last 30 years. The fact is gyno isn't even the most dangerous effect of elevated e2 it is just that we are so vain we care about it more than ones that could contribute to oh say dying LOL
If you haven't gathered I ma saying don't do this. You made a great choice using raloxifene to treat your gyno now make the prudent & responsible choice and use an ai to manage your e2 alongside it man.
Best of luck with the gyno brother!

 

[tbonexl]

If your using ralox to combat gyno, why would you drop your adex dose? If your e2 is high, it would make the ralox that much more difficult to clear up gyno because it's gotta work that much harder. Get your adex dose dialed in. That's just a silly logic you have there...

 

[killchill]

Thanks for your replies I forgot to mention I'm on trt 200mg test ew, and I take .10mg liquidex twice a week keeps my E2 on 19pg/ml

Right now I'm blasting on 600mg test c I have been dosing .10mg liquidex eod and my E2 is sit was at 19 pg/ml at week 3 yet I had sore and sensitive nippes.

I don't want to bump my AI dose anymore because it kills my hip and knee.
I started taking ralox 4 days ago and my sore and sensitive nipples went away also I drop back to .10mg liquidex twice a week for now, unless I see high E2 sides I won't up it.

I have 0 water bloat, blood pressure is good, libido fine, 0 acne , actually when I was on 200mg I would get a pimple or 2 in my back couple times a week Since I Started My blast I haven't have a single breakout, so my flare ups are not from high e2.

I'm on week 5 and I have only gone up 2 lbs since I started my blast, I'm eating 3000 calories
Im.eating 250g prot, 100g fats, fill the rest with carbs.





So far I'm on week 5 I had bloodwork(TT and e2) done last Monday waiting on results.

So I really don't know what's causing my flare ups, but ralox fixed it withing 2 days, I even forgot I have nipples now.

 

[JimiThing]

Thanks for your replies I forgot to mention I'm on trt 200mg test ew, and I take .10mg liquidex twice a week keeps my E2 on 19pg/ml

Right now I'm blasting on 600mg test c I have been dosing .10mg liquidex eod and my E2 is sit was at 19 pg/ml at week 3 yet I had sore and sensitive nippes.

I don't want to bump my AI dose anymore because it kills my hip and knee.
I started taking ralox 4 days ago and my sore and sensitive nipples went away also I drop back to .10mg liquidex twice a week for now, unless I see high E2 sides I won't up it.

I have 0 water bloat, blood pressure is good, libido fine, 0 acne , actually when I was on 200mg I would get a pimple or 2 in my back couple times a week Since I Started My blast I haven't have a single breakout, so my flare ups are not from high e2.

I'm on week 5 and I have only gone up 2 lbs since I started my blast, I'm eating 3000 calories
Im.eating 250g prot, 100g fats, fill the rest with carbs.





So far I'm on week 5 I had bloodwork(TT and e2) done last Monday waiting on results.

So I really don't know what's causing my flare ups, but ralox fixed it withing 2 days, I even forgot I have nipples now.

I wish more people would pay attention to the few that actually utilize raloxifene. Its effectiveness is astounding. Thanks for reporting back.

 

[killchill]

It really does its job,

I keep my e2 at 19-20pg/ml just because of the flare ups but it's not good for my joints, I'm thinking in letting it raise to 30ish pg/ml or until I notice some high e2 sides along with 60mg ed ralox during my blast.

Then I'm thinking when I get back to my trt dose drop the ai for 4 weeks ,I'm very sensitive to it I require minimal dose to crash my e2, then run blood work see where my e2 is at and if it's in a healthy range do you guys think I could just run a low dose of ralox maybe 20/30mg ed?

Or I should avoid running ralox for long periods of time?

I had my left gland removed when I was a teen and seriously thinking In removing my right gland the one that gives me problems in the near future

reasons I only got my left gland removed it's because the right one developed 1 year later and my parents didn't give a fuck anymore , I'm talking when I was maybe 12 or 13 years old.

 

[wombat68]

I wish more people would pay attention to the few that actually utilize raloxifene. Its effectiveness is astounding. Thanks for reporting back.

i have been on raloxifene for almost 3 weeks now...i had a pretty sizable lump...and it seems to be reducing already...i really hope this continues..have had gyno for 7 years and never treated it...really never noticed until i had had it for 4 years already..then it seemed to get bigger when i tried treating it with dht andractim gel....now hoping the raloxifene will take care of it once and for all...really really hoping haha

 

[killchill]

Was your gyno from aas/ph or pubertal? Ive had mine for 11 or 12 years now, I'm 25.

It was dormant for the past 10 years but I been dealing with it since I started trt even tho my e2 has always been on the low side

I'm only 4 days on ralox but I can feel it working

 

[wombat68]

Was your gyno from aas/ph or pubertal? Ive had mine for 11 or 12 years now, I'm 25.

It was dormant for the past 10 years but I been dealing with it since I started trt even tho my e2 has always been on the low side

I'm only 4 days on ralox but I can feel it working

PH induced i believe from taking one in High school without really knowing what it was or the magnitude of what it does and then not even pct'ing....nutrition store people handing it out to kids not even telling them what it was... wish i had known back then.