Re-thinking going to darkside

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eandrews

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After a long time lifting and getting a physique I am very proud of, I decided I'm ready for my first cycle.

Got all my gear, pct, support supps lined up and I go in to take a blood test for some base line numbers.

My test levels were 1420 ng/dl which is HIGH.

I know its my decision and I'm going to at least wait until I am certain one way or the other.

Anyone get into gear with high natural levels and not get back to normal even with just basic compounds and a good PCT?
 
I'm not sure I would want to risk natty test levels that are that high! You are already gifted and that amount of natural test will allow your frame to carry around quite a bit of muscle and here is the kicker...to hold on to it permanently!

It would take longer to get there but there is no doubt that you are genetically blessed with those levels.

Think this one out long and hard, you might do a cycle or two and lose a ton of that natural production.
 
At those levels I wouldn't wreck it.
Keep training hard and up your food.
Wait a year or two and get it checked again.
 
Jealous! Take advantage of your natty levels now. Focus hard on your diet and get with 3J. He'll dial you in. With those levels you can gain like crazy with just food.
 
Please don t barter or discuss sending and or receiving gear or give out email s in an open forum..it has LE and entrapment written al over it.

OP..no gear needed at this point. Those are approximately my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) level s at 200 a week...
 
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holy mother of testicle shit, 1400 ng/dl totally natural??? Brah....if that ain't a typo, don't you dare run a cycle! Unless you plan on becoming a pro bodybuilder, you would be crazy to mess up natty test of that caliber. To give you perspective, I just started my first cycle....before that my natty test level was 355-400, my avi is me drug free. Just imagine the shit you could do with the levels you got!
 
Thanks for the responses guys. No typo, I was shocked to see the levels so high myself.

I uploaded a pic to show where I'm at.

Pretty sure I am going to put off the cycle for now... just another reason why doing blood work is always a good idea i guess.

***Thought I uploaded profiile pic?? Maybe its just not showing for me bc of low post count??
 
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eandrews said:
After a long time lifting and getting a physique I am very proud of, I decided I'm ready for my first cycle.

Got all my gear, pct, support supps lined up and I go in to take a blood test for some base line numbers.

My test levels were 1420 ng/dl which is HIGH.

I know its my decision and I'm going to at least wait until I am certain one way or the other.

Anyone get into gear with high natural levels and not get back to normal even with just basic compounds and a good PCT?
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Were you taking in products prior to the test? Finasteride, research chems, t boosters etc...?? That is ungodly natty test levels and I would keep "milking" those levels until you are seriously at a road block. Then after manipulating variables ie nutrition, training etc.... ITS HORMONE TIME! Out of curiosity...are looking to compete or just recreational lifting and feeling good for personal reasons?
 
eAndrews,

Would you PM me. I would love to have you fill out our "AndroSTAT" application to see if our equations and visual images accurately match up to what your blood work revealed.

FYI: The AndroSTAT will be a new application where people can answer an extensive questionnaire, select appropriate images that resemble their current physicality and generate a ng/dl value that they should be based on the AndroSTAT reading.

So far we are within 20-50 ng/dl off our actual Beta Testers whom went in for blood work. We then had them go through our AndroSTAT app and the numbers were within 20-50ng/dl some even closer.
 
I'm about 2 weeks into a D-AA product, but thats it. I took last dosage at 10 PM the night before blood work, that was also last time I ate. I didn't take the morning dose and got blood taken around 2 PM.

I am a fitness professional and was considering doing a competition next year, but more for good publicity and to cross it off my bucket list... doubt I'd continue on.

I'd consider my training style powerbuilding. I grew up a skinny soccer player and got into lifting in college. Through the advice of a well known lifting coach I started lifting heavy and less volume. At the same time I like to stay fairly lean and be able to take my shirt off year round.

Funny thing is I feel AMAZING when I haven't partied for an extended period of time (not suprising). Then I go out hard once and I feel like garbage and training goes to maintenance for a week. I'm guessing this is due to my test levels taking a big shot and it just takes a little bit to work their way up again.

Matt- PM sent, I'd be happy to help
 
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