Rogaine Foam

simpllyhuge said:
no i meant it isnt that expensive. Its just before u use these things for a while, at first they seem expensive. But really nizerol is only as much as a regular shampoo and i think it might make a huge difference. I wish i had been using it for years.

does any one have any proof to how well it works? im wondering if it only makes a small difference or acutally has the power to halt hair loss.
I hear ya....around here, the OTC 1% 200ml runs about $14.
Luckily my insurance pays for the 2% and its like a 10 ml bottle for $2 deductable.
Havent seen any actual studies that claim it retains hair. To me it seems to have held mine pretty good but I cant say for 100%.

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I am actually going to hairclub.com for my free consultation and will prolly spend all my summer work money on a hair transplant. HAIR IS IMPORTANT...


I should of never did tren :sad:
 
Tsaunders said:
I am actually going to hairclub.com for my free consultation and will prolly spend all my summer work money on a hair transplant. HAIR IS IMPORTANT...


I should of never did tren :sad:

I'd cancel your scheduled appointment with hairclub ASAP. AFAIK they do not perform transplants anyway. All they do is basically give you what amounts to a fancy wig.

Stay away from Bosley, MHR, and all of the other hair factories that you see advertising on late night infomercials. I don't want to sound redundant, but these places have absolutely butchered people! If you don't believe me do a thorough search on the net.

Go to www.hairlosshelp.com and check out the surgical procedures section if you are seriously considering a procedure. You'll quickly be able to differentiate between top doctors and hack shops. Just off the top of my head a few competent doctors that come to mind are Shapiro, Hasson & Wong, Wolf, Armani, etc.

Going in for a transplant is a life changing event. Coming out with a sub par result could put you in greater despair than you had going in. Choosing a hair transplant doc is not something to take lightly. Research, research, and then research some more.

btw, you're a brother aren't ya? Atleast being black, you can shave your head and still look decent. Most of us whities don't look good with shaved heads! LoL
 
MLB56 said:
Do you think using Rogain is enough ? What about Propecia ? Does it work ?

Dolphin 56

For those suffering from MPB, I'd venture to say that Rogaine alone will never be enough. It does nothing to stop the fundamental causation of balding (DHT and inflammation). It provides growth that is totally independent of these two factors.

It does however compliment fin or dut very nicely.
 
hehateme, not saying your wrong but doctor lee says on his website that its okay to leave in over night.

how much does the copper pepties cost? and can it be used with minox foam at the same time. ?


also spiro is such a pain in the ass, you think nizerol alone will be just as good. I use it every day.
 
simpllyhuge said:
hehateme, not saying your wrong but doctor lee says on his website that its okay to leave in over night.


how much does the copper pepties cost? and can it be used with minox foam at the same time. ?

also spiro is such a pain in the ass, you think nizerol alone will be just as good. I use it every day.
Are you sure Dr. Lee wasn't talking about ketoconazole lotion instead of the shampoo. There's a big difference in the recommended use of each.

Ebay has Revitalize for pretty cheap. Last time around I scored two bottles for just over twenty bucks total. I intend on using both once my foam gets here.

I believe a good topical anti-androgen is a necessity while cycling. You may want to try fluridil. It's supposedly odorless and dries very quickly.
 
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haha he hate me im not black man..... caucasion


ITs a free consultation, so i pay nothing for the irst time. Im just going to see what the doc says, that is all
 
Tsaunders said:
haha he hate me im not black man..... caucasion


ITs a free consultation, so i pay nothing for the irst time. Im just going to see what the doc says, that is all

LoL sorry bro,

I guessed I took the name 'Saunders' and the fact that you play bball and assumed you were a man of color. My bad!
 
not to try and say your wrong he hate me, just wanted your opinion. but this is the instructions he leaves

Quantity and Ingredients:
4 oz. Ketoconazole 2%, salicylic acid 3%, purified water, hydrolyzed keratin protein,
quarternium 19, sodium styrene/acrylates/divinylbenzene polymer, sodium laureth
cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium laureth sulfate, panthenol, soapbark, citric acid,
allantoin, methylparaben, glyceryl PABA, sodium chloride, fragrance, red coloring,
imidurea, sodium hydroxide.

How long does 4 oz last?
Variable, depending on the amount used during each shampooing and frequency of use.
When used 2 to 3 times a week, this is approximately a one month supply.

Directions for Use:
1. Moisten hair and scalp thoroughly with water.
2. Apply sufficient Regrowth Treatment Shampoo to produce enough lather to
wash the scalp and hair and gently massage it over the entire scalp.
3. Leave the Regrowth Treatment Shampoo on the scalp for at least 5 minutes.
It can be allowed to dry and left on the scalp overnight.
5. Rinse off thoroughly with warm water.
6. Apply a daily conditioner, such as Nizoral Daily Conditioner.
7. Dry the hair with a towel or a warm blow dryer.

Shampoo two or three times / week with the Regrowth Treatment Shampoo. You may
choose to use other shampoos and conditioners of your choice on the alternative
days.
Ketoconozole inhibits the synthesis of DHT by preventing some pathways of steroid
synthesis. Salicylic acid 3% is a keratolytic agent and its action on the scalp
aids in the penetration of ketoconazole.

i was thinking of maybe throwing my spiro powder inside the nizerol. because how can i use nizerol spiro and minoxidil and then copper peptides.
 
You have to take the fact that he's a salesmen into consideration.

He also touts azelaic acid as an anti-androgen when there is no scientific evidence showing it's effectivness anywhere other than the test tube. He just happens to sell it.
 
he hate me, can you tell me more about these copper peptides and what they do and when they go on?

also i looked on ebay and not sure if the ones im looking at can be used on the head.

aslo what do you know about follices that arnt totally dead, just the strand is thin. Im curious if this happned while on AS if its possible for the follicle to get thick and healthy again if niz and minox are used and the excess dht that cuased the follicle to shrink is the first place is no longer present.
 
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simpllyhuge said:
he hate me, can you tell me more about these copper peptides and what they do and when they go on?

also i looked on ebay and not sure if the ones im looking at can be used on the head.

aslo what do you know about follices that arnt totally dead, just the strand is thin. Im curious if this happned while on AS if its possible for the follicle to get thick and healthy again if niz and minox are used and the excess dht that cuased the follicle to shrink is the first place is no longer present.

Copper peptides help promote healing and defend against inflammation. They're useful in fighting hair loss as they help create a healthy scalp environment. Grafcyte (a cp product) is often prescribed to people who have had transplant surgery in order to expedite healing.

Do a search on Ebay for American Crew Revitalize Spray and Tricomin. They're the two that I'd recommend. American Crew has recently switched over to a CP formula that many believe to not be as effective. However, the old formula can still be found if you search diligently enough. Tricomin would be another option, although it's much more expensive. The old Revitalize formula and Tricomin are essentially the same product and contain roughly the same amount of copper peptides.

As long as the hair is still there, the miniaturization process (through effective treatments) can be reversed causing it to thicken and strengthen once again. That's why those that jump on treatments at the first signs of thinning are often the best responders.
 
sorry if this post is crappy, but im in school and its hard to type with out people seeing what i write or the banner.

yeah i have diffuse thinning over the front of my head. But i have been either cruising or straight out cycling as a mentall crutch for a few years and before that my hair wasnt thinnning much. I started to use minox foam and minox with retin at night along with nizerol a about a year ago and have had regrowth. I keep my hair short thou and some looks like miniature hairs, not sure if these are the vellus hairs people speak of.

Any way i finally came off after i got my anxiety under controll, i knew it was stupid the whole time just couldnt take being off.

so now that i have at least little hairs covering my whole head in the crown and some normal hair weaved in with tiny hairs all over the rest of my head, im hoping that the little hairs will turn into thick hairs again. my hair is only a number 1 so its hard to tell inless im in the light that its thinning.

I dont think i have any actual fully balled spots but its hard to tell. the crown is close thou, very tiny hairs on it but that spot is small and the rest has regrown but just not as healthy looking.


right now i wash with nizerol ed and minox foam a few times a day(just being honest lol). i also use spiro at night. when would i encorperate the copper peptides? Also i looked on ebay, do i want the Tricomin solution or conditioner? American Crew 12oz Revitalize Daily Shampoo or the solution or serum. The american crew has some good deals just cant tell which one i need.
 
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simpllyhuge said:
sorry if this post is crappy, but im in school and its hard to type with out people seeing what i write or the banner.

Just don't let 'em see the pornographic images you're downloading all day long.

[/QUOTE]when would i encorperate the copper peptides? Also i looked on ebay, do i want the Tricomin solution or conditioner? American Crew 12oz Revitalize Daily Shampoo or the solution or serum. The american crew has some good deals just cant tell which one i need.[/QUOTE]

I use the copper peptides after my shower. I'll just use a few spritzes after my hair has dried a bit (still damp). I'm going to apply the foam shortly thereafter.

American Crew Revitalize solution is the one I'd suggest. Same thing with the Tricomin.
 
so its the blue bottle then. thanks. I saw the shampoo for really cheap in bulk, i was thinking i could alternate that with nizerol. but if you think the solution is better than thats what will use, it says the shampoo contains a copper complex and its cheap if u buy a lot. So do u still suggest the solution, im confused as to if they are just different preferences or tottaly different. thanls for the help.
 
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simpllyhuge said:
so its the blue bottle then. thanks. I saw the shampoo for really cheap in bulk, i was thinking i could alternate that with nizerol. but if you think the solution is better than thats what will use, it says the shampoo contains a copper complex and its cheap if u buy a lot. So do u still suggest the solution, im confused as to if they are just different preferences or tottaly different. thanls for the help.

I don't think the shampoo stays on the scalp long enough to be effective. With the solution, it can do it's thing all day long.
 
ok thanks for taking the time to answer. So ill use it after i shower with my rogain foam. so the copper peptides just reduce inflimation because i read somewhere a claim that it cleanses dht.
 
simpllyhuge said:
ok thanks for taking the time to answer. So ill use it after i shower with my rogain foam. so the copper peptides just reduce inflimation because i read somewhere a claim that it cleanses dht.

I've never heard that claim.
 
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