Runnin' HGH & IGF: how much tren and test?

[House]

Current stats:
28 y.o.
6’2”
265 lbs. (up to 285 during a cycle)
10-12% BF
Lifting 9 years
Juicing past 6 years (2-3 cycles/year)

I’m about to run HGH for the first time, at 4 i.u.’s per day (divided into 2 shots per day). I have enough to run it at that dose for 4 months, but expect to get more before I run out. I’m also going to stack it with IGF, at 20mcg/day, 30 days on, then 30 off (and repeat).

My question is: I want to run these two with a 15 week cycle, consisting of Test Ent. and Tren Ent., but how much of each and at what weeks?

Also, I have plenty of EQ and oral Winstrol (winny) to throw in the mix if need be.

I’ll be taking Arimidex to counter sides, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (500 i.u. every 4 days) to prevent complete shut down, and a low dose of T3 (to keep the furnace burning)

Please keep in mind I’m a big boy and have done approx. 15 cycles prior to this. The last cycle I did consisted of Tren 500mg/wk, Test E 700mg/wk, and EQ 600mg/wk. My goal is simple: Get as huge as possible without turning into a smooth watery blobby mess.

Your suggestions are welcome, and if you’re confused, I’d be happy to clarify. Thanks!

 

[StoneColdNTO]

HGH or IGF will have no bearing on dosing, timing, anything to do with your cycle. Just run the cycle as you normally would.

 

[House]

Thanks SC!
Anybody see any problems/suggestions for the actual cycle then?
Is Tren 500mg/wk, Test E 700mg/wk, and EQ 600mg/wk an acceptable combo, or should I tweak it?

 

[Bast]

As you said yourself, 4 months will be on the low side with GH, I have personally never run it, but it I where to, I would go for atleast 8 months.

Igf is good shit, specially in PCT or when otherwise being off.

For the cycle it looks nice. I would drop the T3 and just run some cardio.
I love Test/Tren combo, 500mg Tren EW is more then I have used (and i compete just under 220). So that together with 750-1g of test EW should give you real good gains.
Also I would save the Igf for the PCT.

 

[House]

Thanks for the advice Bast, I'll post an update as to how the GH treats me. Going to start in a few weeks!

 

[Die$eL~Man]

i would run some slin with the gh and drop the tren

 

[House]

I've never used slin Diesel, nor do I know much about it's dosing, etc. Could you give me a quick run-down if I'd replace the Tren with it? Much obliged.

 

[jpflex66]

Last thing I would do is take advice from ppl that never ran hgh books and articles is not experience

 

[jpflex66]

As you said yourself, 4 months will be on the low side with GH, I have personally never run it, but it I where to, I would go for atleast 8 months.

Igf is good shit, specially in post cycle therapy (pct) or when otherwise being off.

For the cycle it looks nice. I would drop the T3 and just run some cardio.
I love Test/Tren combo, 500mg Tren EW is more then I have used (and i compete just under 220). So that together with 750-1g of test EW should give you real good gains.
Also I would save the Igf for the post cycle therapy (pct).

U feel that dose of test works very well just curious seem 500mgs for me is not really amazing for big results

 

[Bast]

U feel that dose of test works very well just curious seem 500mgs for me is not really amazing for big results

Test? 500mg TREN. If you do the work in the gym, eat well you WILL grow. Why take more when you dont need to?
I only use "lower" doses and I probably wont be able to compete in the under 220 class this year.

 

[Trevdog]

The cycle you proposed looks pretty solid to me.

Insulin *might* let you gain a bit more, but it can be very dangerous. There are some articles out there to get a knowledge base. I would rather see you up your test dose to a gram per week if you're trying to really get huge.

 

[Biggin]

I agree with Trevdog, Up the Test to 1g a week with the Tren and U will like!!!

 

[wmac7]

i love taking insulin... just do mad hw on it... my roommate has been holding my hand through it for a while... but i love it u just HAVE TO RESPECT IT OR IT WILL KILL YOU.

 

[House]

I like idea of a G of test a week compared to the word "KILL", so I think I'm going with that! Thanks bros!