Safest cycling ideas? Short vs long cycles

I agree with this. Maybe do 2 a year. I hear what u guys are saying, it's not hard to understand. The deal is this, when I'm on test and deca, I need an AI which also drops my HDL, then I add in HCG etc
So after 2-3 months on this I'm like what the hell am I doing taking all these drugs just to look better? I feel selfish now that I'm older, job, have kids, hence the questions about safer cycles. This shouldn't offend anyone (other than Onk but I think he has mental issues or maybe just a douche or more likely both)

I don't think AAS is for you then. Unless you're planning on making a career from your body, it IS a selfish and self-centered thing to do. If you cannot accept that, then perhaps you can forgo messing with your hormones.

Onk pretty much said how it is. If that makes him a douche, he's a correct douche that I'd take advice from.


Just sayin'. :)
 
I like billbroberts theory that if the cycke uses short esters like prop and tren, and if kept to 2 weeks, the HPTA doesn't suffer. Then it can repeated in 4-6 weeks.
Or, is it best to cycke mild compounds like test and deca X 12-14 weeks then take equal time off? Thoughts on this? I use traditional cycles but I'm starting to like the short cycle theory

What do you all think is the safest way to cycke in terms of health and preserving hpta ? I know it's general and very individual, but what are your thoughts? Like 2 8 week cycles a year? Or one 12 week mass cycle in the fall and a 6 week cut cycke in the spring? Just curious to others opinions, I know there is no correct answer

Ok, I'm going to do 3 weeks on (test prop plus var) take 10 weeks off and repeat. That allows me to only be on 12 weeks out the year. I'll keep y'all posted, but I won't start it till next year since I currently only have long esters.

I usually do the 12 on, 12 off, but I hate going that long being off. Just as you say, risk vs reward, I'd rather have less risk then reward, hence the short cycles. Less time on, less risk of permanent shut down... Yes less gains but I can still add a solid 8 with a 3week cycke and that's enough for me. Since I'm not shut down that much, I tend to keep the gains..
Whatever works I guess

I agree with this. Maybe do 2 a year. I hear what u guys are saying, it's not hard to understand. The deal is this, when I'm on test and deca, I need an AI which also drops my HDL, then I add in HCG etc
So after 2-3 months on this I'm like what the hell am I doing taking all these drugs just to look better? I feel selfish now that I'm older, job, have kids, hence the questions about safer cycles. This shouldn't offend anyone (other than Onk but I think he has mental issues or maybe just a douche or more likely both)

There you go.

I've highlighted your posts again so you can see why you make people dumber for reading your ramblings. Synthesizing them in one post should make it easy for any newbie coming through to recognise that they won't learn anything from this thread.

I even like the parts where you're trying not to be selfish despite having kids, yet are going to do this anyway, where you know you'll end up on TRT. But whatever floats your boat, my little minded and contradictory, friend.
 
There you go.

I've highlighted your posts again so you can see why you make people dumber for reading your ramblings. Synthesizing them in one post should make it easy for any newbie coming through to recognise that they won't learn anything from this thread.

I even like the parts where you're trying not to be selfish despite having kids, yet are going to do this anyway, where you know you'll end up on TRT. But whatever floats your boat, my little minded and contradictory, friend.
I am starting a conversation about billbroberts short cycle theory, I do not do it myself, simply having an adult conversation about it.
You remind me of this class I took in Australia once, the teacher gave the answers to the students in the class and half the class still failed. Maybe cause most were former prisoners or they may be inbreed or f'ing too many sheep, but you remind me of them.
 
There you go.

I've highlighted your posts again so you can see why you make people dumber for reading your ramblings. Synthesizing them in one post should make it easy for any newbie coming through to recognise that they won't learn anything from this thread.

I even like the parts where you're trying not to be selfish despite having kids, yet are going to do this anyway, where you know you'll end up on TRT. But whatever floats your boat, my little minded and contradictory, friend.

Please, enlighten me on the safest options? Seriously, instead of bashing, give me an honest answer on length vs time off, how many in a year. Try to be helpful, not a douche
 
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