severe knee pain after squatting 5 plates (video)

[DucBase]

OP you need to rest that knee for a while. I've done the same thing a few times and a tendon screaming at you is something that just takes a bit of time.

You were too far forward and 1/2 squatting it. Both of those things are hell on the knees. It's natural to do that when you are under a really heavy bar and the confidence is a bit shaky. I can tell when I don't get parallel as my patellar tendon screams at me after (seems counter-intuitive, but that's been my experience).

Lighten it up a bit once it feels better and work on sitting back into it. Neoprene knee sleeves are great for injuries like this. Just keeping it warm will help a lot, I'd bet money on it. Also consider adopting a low bar (Mark Rippetoe style) squat. I find it to be much easier on my knees when going heavy.

 

[49ER]

People are morons to make an argument where their main proof consists of pointing out how they look. For all I care megatron and ripped could be 500 pound couch potatoes and it would not change the fact that they know more than the guy posting a million pics. It is a sad day when people put forth these kinds of arguments expecting anyone to agree.

Wrong how are you gonna have a aas coach and bodybuilding coach that has never lived the life. I want someone who has experienced sides and had success not a book worm. This isnt defending bustin i could care less abojt his training. Fact is im not gonna base bodybuilding off some guy that learned the shit on books. This isnt football or basketball this has to do with looks and a person must have experience to get you those looks. Look at onk giving stupid advice 1.5 grams of test because someone wants to run a little tren, why because he fucken read that online and has no clue

 

[Southernfish]

Heres the thing about taking advice from people that promote what they know solely through how they look. These people have done one thing and one thing only, they have found out what work for THEM, that doesnt mean they have a clue what works for anyone else. Because anyone with the slightest bit of wit about them KNOWS, what works for one may not work for another, and thats a fact. Over the years I have seen MANY people get trained (diet and training) by people who look fantastic and never look any different than they did when they first started, so the only thing that you can take from someone who looks good is that they have found a formula that works for THEM.

And sitting there saying that some guy is a joke because he pasted a scientific article is completely ignorant because the guy that did that has most likely spent some time finding these informative article and if hes spent the time finding them hes most likely spent some time reading them therefor making him more knowledgable than someone who hasnt done this.

Disagreeing with science in this sport or someone who has scientific knowledge is completely ridiculous because if you want to disagree with science you may as well disagree with steroids because the people that constructed those compounds are idiots, and all the acilliary drugs to combat side effects, well whoever designed those is an idiot too. What about hypertrophy and hyperplastia or how GH rejuvinates cell causes new cell to grow you may as well disagree with that too because thats total BS right? How about how certain amount of carbs protein and fat can vause weight loss or gain, is this not science. Cmon man.

Anyone who judges someone by what they look like is shallow and ignornat. Weather that person looks awesome or totally not awesome. What someone looks like has no bearing on what they know or who they are.

 

[bigben66]

Wrong how are you gonna have a aas coach and bodybuilding coach that has never lived the life. I want someone who has experienced sides and had success not a book worm. This isnt defending bustin i could care less abojt his training. Fact is im not gonna base bodybuilding off some guy that learned the shit on books. This isnt football or basketball this has to do with looks and a person must have experience to get you those looks. Look at onk giving stupid advice 1.5 grams of test because someone wants to run a little tren, why because he fucken read that online and has no clue

I gotta say 49er, I'm surprised at you... I thought you knew your sh*t... you need to be more open minded brother.

 

[bustinass]

Lyle McDonald, who is probably the father of the Ketogenic Diet, calls for a minimum of 150g of protein on a ketogenic diet to preserve muscle mass in his book on the subject.

i dont care who he is, i am telling you, you dont need that much protein on KETO diet, if its too much (person dependant) it will start gluconeogenesis and thus form glucose and thus spike insulin and thus fuck you up the ass big time. MANY dont properly keto adapt because of this, too much protein. I do more then fine with 120grams per day and i am pretty big guy and training 6x a week very intense

MANy do keto diet, but many also do refeeds with carbs and whatnot. i do not do this, i am going for maximum keto adaptation which is the next stage and i dont let anything stand in the way, meaning keeping my protein medium at the most

 

[49ER]

I dont care what people look like show me one scientist that has put a bbodybuilder in stage. I will never hite any trainer because this is not my career ill listen to advise i might even try it but thats all. Anyone including myself can put in the years researching and be an expert.

Will it make me look better? Nope if i had to choose someone for bodybuilding it has to be a ex bodybuilder or still one. To say youd spend big dollars for a important show for someone you dont know anything about expect hes smart is a lie.

How are you gonna ask a coach that doesnt do tren to give u a protocol and advice they dont teach that at college or even online. Not saying science doesnt have its place but do famous bodybuilders study aas the science and go based off that? Nope.... has anyone studied 30iu of hgh and slin use on a bodybuilder? Nope..... you can say whatever but you get my drift and so does everyone else

 

[49ER]

I gotta say 49er, I'm surprised at you... I thought you knew your sh*t... you need to be more open minded brother.

Bro this has nothing to do with zilla being cool or even him at all..... have you competed? Im sure you have was your trainer a average guy that just learned everything from books and online? Thats my point invthe last 3; years so many famous posters turned out to be frauds with agenda to make money.... again has nothing to do with guys here but you cant base capabilities on the ability to research

 

[bigben66]

I dont care what people look like show me one scientist that has put a bbodybuilder in stage. I will never hite any trainer because this is not my career ill listen to advise i might even try it but thats all. Anyone including myself can put in the years researching and be an expert.

Will it make me look better? Nope if i had to choose someone for bodybuilding it has to be a ex bodybuilder or still one. To say youd spend big dollars for a important show for someone you dont know anything about expect hes smart is a lie.

How are you gonna ask a coach that doesnt do tren to give u a protocol and advice they dont teach that at college or even online. Not saying science doesnt have its place but do famous bodybuilders study aas the science and go based off that? Nope.... has anyone studied 30iu of hgh and slin use on a bodybuilder? Nope..... you can say whatever but you get my drift and so does everyone else

I'm intelligent enough to read information from ALL walks of life and to differentiate between advice worth incorporating into my routine and what to discard. To throw good advice away from someone purely because of their looks, or their background is just short sighted and stupid.

EG: I've just started researching and incorporating FST-7 training into my programme. I've seen Hany Rambod once, he's bald and carrying a lot of excess weight, but I haven't once thought about that - I'm more interested in the cold hard facts, and the facts are that his system works, it's worked for many successful bodybuilder, at all levels. That'll do for me. End of!

 

[bustinass]

i LOVE how guys presume that those who look awesome must be stupid and know ONLY what works for them haha. most guys i know including myself who look awesome have spent thousands of hours in research and science in this topic so we have AND the knowledge of science AND the practical experience of that science, something very few have including the scientists doing the research

i walk the path AND have read the path and know all the science behind it. VERY hard combo to beat, well impossible

 

[bigben66]

i LOVE how guys presume that those who look awesome must be stupid and know ONLY what works for them haha. most guys i know including myself who look awesome have spent thousands of hours in research and science in this topic so we have AND the knowledge of science AND the practical experience of that science, something very few have including the scientists doing the research

i walk the path AND have read the path and know all the science behind it. VERY hard combo to beat, well impossible

With all due respect, you might have a degree in biomechanics and own your own laboratory...
But all that has been overshadowed by your sheer arrogance, self-righteous posts and know-it-all approach to nutrition. Which is a massive shame, because your obviously more knowledgeable than most.

 

[505jules]

OP you need to rest that knee for a while. I've done the same thing a few times and a tendon screaming at you is something that just takes a bit of time.

You were too far forward and 1/2 squatting it. Both of those things are hell on the knees. It's natural to do that when you are under a really heavy bar and the confidence is a bit shaky. I can tell when I don't get parallel as my patellar tendon screams at me after (seems counter-intuitive, but that's been my experience).

Lighten it up a bit once it feels better and work on sitting back into it. Neoprene knee sleeves are great for injuries like this. Just keeping it warm will help a lot, I'd bet money on it. Also consider adopting a low bar (Mark Rippetoe style) squat. I find it to be much easier on my knees when going heavy.

I got my SBD knee sleeves last month and they are amazing! I still think proper form is the best way to combat injury, but those raise my comfort and confidence level greatly!

 

[49ER]

This whole thing is stupid and started because Matt opened his fat mouth and rudelycommented that bustins advice was wrong about squats, thats coming from the 1/5th squat guy eith the hugest ego.

I could care less about looks i know exactly what it is like to be fat and have 0 muscle. Only reason i played the stupid game id because i dont like matt. And he use to make fun of me like trying to make himself likeable. I knew by him always posting a pic with a tank he had something he was insecure about.

So naturally i had to pick him apart simce hes a loud mouth no it all. Ok we all no science is important, will you choose arnold Schwarzenegger or lyle or any of those guys i dont remember names that dont lift? Sorry but science cannot show me how to use large doses of aas it will only tell me how it works but even that is flawed because it hasnt been tested

 

[Southernfish]

i LOVE how guys presume that those who look awesome must be stupid and know ONLY what works for them haha. most guys i know including myself who look awesome have spent thousands of hours in research and science in this topic so we have AND the knowledge of science AND the practical experience of that science, something very few have including the scientists doing the research

i walk the path AND have read the path and know all the science behind it. VERY hard combo to beat, well impossible

If thats the case then start droppin some knowledge man. Not just pics and 'proof is in the puddin'. No one cares about that dude, start holdin out a helpful hand with the knowledge you have, and start helping out some less knowledgable bros.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

I dont care what people look like show me one scientist that has put a bbodybuilder in stage. I will never hite any trainer because this is not my career ill listen to advise i might even try it but thats all. Anyone including myself can put in the years researching and be an expert.

Dude you realise that Hany Rambod has a degree in biology right?
You realise that MANY coaches have actually done studies as well right - eric helms, layne Norton, Alan Aragon - all guys who have conducted studies AND gotten people to WIN bodybuilding shows.

Before assuming things like "scientists never put bodybuilders on stage" you really need to do some research.
For example, most here assume that I'm all science but that is NOT the case - every single one of my clients who wanted to compete has placed and some have won - every single one. Hell you see the girl in my avi - I've done some of her preps before.

The point is this bustinass is making a bunch of claims about dieting that are WRONG - it has NOTHING to do with how you look.
If human biology says this is how things work, then this is how things work - looking good isn't going to change that.

 

[49ER]

Dude you realise that Hany Rambod has a degree in biology right?
You realise that MANY coaches have actually done studies as well right - eric helms, layne Norton, Alan Aragon - all guys who have conducted studies AND gotten people to WIN bodybuilding shows.

Before assuming things like "scientists never put bodybuilders on stage" you really need to do some research.
For example, most here assume that I'm all science but that is NOT the case - every single one of my clients who wanted to compete has placed and some have won - every single one. Hell you see the girl in my avi - I've done some of her preps before.

The point is this bustinass is making a bunch of claims about dieting that are WRONG - it has NOTHING to do with how you look.
If human biology says this is how things work, then this is how things work - looking good isn't going to change that.

Whoa hope your not mad at me too.... first of all layne norton is a p.o.S horrible example hes a liar about everything and uses his degree to mislead people. I like you and i have never even implied any of my stuff about you. Sounds like you know alot about diet wich is why i pm you and asked for advice. And are we talking about natural shows or enhanced? I dont care how smart a person is if they have never used tren high dose hgh high dose insulin high dose they cant speak for a bodybuilder trying to get on stage.

Yes bodybuilding guys go to school and learn because they know theres no money in this sport so thay need to make a living and that requires school and knowledge

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Whoa hope your not mad at me too.... first of all layne norton is a p.o.S horrible example hes a liar about everything and uses his degree to mislead people. I like you and i have never even implied any of my stuff about you. Sounds like you know alot about diet wich is why i pm you and asked for advice. And are we talking about natural shows or enhanced? I dont care how smart a person is if they have never used tren high dose hgh high dose insulin high dose they cant speak for a bodybuilder trying to get on stage.

Yes bodybuilding guys go to school and learn because they know theres no money in this sport so thay need to make a living and that requires school and knowledge

Hany Rambod coaches Phil Heath as well as pretty much every other big time BB champ right now.

And this argument with bustinass isn't about steroid knowledge - its about diet knowledge.
He has made a bunch of claims all over the place INCLUDING a bunch of bullshit about keto diets that is NOT true - this proves that he has no business being a "coach".

He said that you can LOSE fat eating over maintenance as long as you control insulin - his proof? His pic.
He said that you can keep muscle by eating pretty low protein and high fat - his proof? His pic.
He said that carbs are poison and evil - his proof? His pic.

He has had 15 fucking pages to come up with ONE bit of evidence and he hasn't, why?
Because it doesn't exist - there is no evidence that you can magically lose fat by controlling insulin and ignoring calories - none.

And I'm not taking this personally, I know that the only reason your on bustinass' side is because you don't know much about dieting (something you admitted).

 

[49ER]

Hany Rambod coaches Phil Heath as well as pretty much every other big time BB champ right now.

And this argument with bustinass isn't about steroid knowledge - its about diet knowledge.
He has made a bunch of claims all over the place INCLUDING a bunch of bullshit about keto diets that is NOT true - this proves that he has no business being a "coach".

He said that you can LOSE fat eating over maintenance as long as you control insulin - his proof? His pic.
He said that you can keep muscle by eating pretty low protein and high fat - his proof? His pic.
He said that carbs are poison and evil - his proof? His pic.

He has had 15 fucking pages to come up with ONE bit of evidence and he hasn't, why?
Because it doesn't exist - there is no evidence that you can magically lose fat by controlling insulin and ignoring calories - none.

And I'm not taking this personally, I know that the only reason your on bustinass' side is because you don't know much about dieting (something you admitted).

True thats why i said earlier statement what this was about again... my frustration comes not from here but from 3 years of b.s and listening to guys online that turned my body into a mess. And they were all guys i couldn't see as far as diet ya probably doesnt matter what you look like unless your obese then id question you lol.... i dont know shit about diet and thats why ive Been reaching out trying to learn im ready to cut finally

 

[ojandd]

What did i miss? Haha

 

[bigben66]

unless your obese then id question you lol

49er... say he WAS obese... why should that matter?
As long as he had the knowledge to know how not to be obese - and shared it, that's all you need to know.
You just need to read the facts, take them in, reflect on what you've read, and then be intelligent and shrewd enough to make your own decisions as to whether that piece of information you have just digested would work for you.
Whether the author is thin, fat, obese, ripped etc shoudn't come into it, one iota!

 

[49ER]

49er... say he WAS obese... why should that matter?
As long as he had the knowledge to know how not to be obese - and shared it, that's all you need to know.
You just need to read the facts, take them in, reflect on what you've read, and then be intelligent and shrewd enough to make your own decisions as to whether that piece of information you have just digested would work for you.
Whether the author is thin, fat, obese, ripped etc shoudn't come into it, one iota!

Matbe your right maybe your not.... my whole thinking is if youve never been there then you really dont know what its like if you cant even get lean and healthy yourself. .... its like me i can read all i want and give you guys advice in how to get shredded but i myself have never been shredded