Sex drive has crashed...normal?

VAF

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Hey everyone

I am midway through my pct and I'm doing fairly poorly. I have been experiencing depression and am back to my pre juice weight, although I still think I look more muscular.

I did 11 weeks of test e
then 10 days of hcg
my pct is clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/25/25
I am also using aromasin at around 25 mg per day.

edit: To clarify, I am on the 3rd week of my pct right now, the third week ends Thursday.

I had a high sex drive before steroids and a ridiculous sex drive on them. Now my sex drive is all but non existent and I'm a bit nervous about meeting with a woman this weekend.

Is what I'm experiencing normal?

Thank you.
 
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It's normal to have a low libido obviously for post cycle therapy (pct). I think your estrogen levels are low and test. It will come back. Some may disagree but I would take out the aromasin and just stick with nolva or clomid
 
Also during PCT I up my cals, stop cardio, and really hold onto the weight and progress I made on cycle. Stay off clen/t3 etc. Get into a bulking phase more or less
 
If she knows what she's doing you won't have any problems. If you can't get it up, blame it on her lol.

I slept with a girl about two weeks ago when I first started feeling low libido. I was really scared on the way to her apartment. Fortunately I had enough in the tank to get it up and keep it up, but I feel less confident now.
 
Also during PCT I up my cals, stop cardio, and really hold onto the weight and progress I made on cycle. Stay off clen/t3 etc. Get into a bulking phase more or less

I'm eating as much as I comfortably can but still losing weight. My appetite has crashed. Ive tried weight gainer shakes but I still lost weight. Next time, if there is a next time, Ill spend some time with 3J getting everything diet wise lined up for on cycle and pct.
 
Maybe some ghrp6 during pct too for appetite. The stuff does work!!!

Get some cialis or viagara. Telling you right now though. You feeling down will not help. It's a lot mental being able to get it up then actually your body
 
Maybe some ghrp6 during pct too for appetite. The stuff does work!!!

Get some cialis or viagara. Telling you right now though. You feeling down will not help. It's a lot mental being able to get it up then actually biology

I can believe that. Are you serious about the viagara, I know some of the sponsors sell it but have no idea about sides/safety/effectiveness.
 
It's nothing to be scared of, I'm sure we've all experienced it, just some won't admit it. As long as you keep it up you're GTG. My last cycle during PCT my drive started to go south. It was like I had whiskey dick. Went forever, but never really felt like I was going to finish. About a week or two after my PCT was over it came back like a raging bull. You're body will recover, don't stress about it, that'll make the situation worse. If you're that nervous tell her you want to wait and get to know her. I know it's BS but it'd be an out that might win you points too.

IMO stick with just the Nolva and Clomid, or just the Clomid alone.
 
Just messing around man.

I re-read your OP, and I must say that I think the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is being ran too high. You probably have crashed your estro. Estrogen is important in sex drive and joint lubrication amongst other biological functions in the body.

While "on" cycle you may have adjusted your aromasin from 12.5ED to 25mg ED.... if an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is run on pct the dose is typically 1/2 of the default dose on cycle. This is mainly to prevent estro rebound and to manipulate a feedback loop. I think if you drop your aromasin to 6.25mg ED... or cut it out completely at this point, your libido shall increase. GOOD LUCK!
 
It's nothing to be scared of, I'm sure we've all experienced it, just some won't admit it. As long as you keep it up you're GTG. My last cycle during PCT my drive started to go south. It was like I had whiskey dick. Went forever, but never really felt like I was going to finish. About a week or two after my PCT was over it came back like a raging bull. You're body will recover, don't stress about it, that'll make the situation worse. If you're that nervous tell her you want to wait and get to know her. I know it's BS but it'd be an out that might win you points too.

IMO stick with just the Nolva and Clomid, or just the Clomid alone.

Thanks everybody. I didnt want to admit it but thats exactly what happened to me. I was able to go for a while but it kinda bothered her that I didnt finish, like she took it personally.
 
Just messing around man.

I re-read your OP, and I must say that I think the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is being ran too high. You probably have crashed your estro. Estrogen is important in sex drive and joint lubrication amongst other biological functions in the body.

While "on" cycle you may have adjusted your aromasin from 12.5ED to 25mg ED.... if an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is run on pct the dose is typically 1/2 of the default dose on cycle. This is mainly to prevent estro rebound and to manipulate a feedback loop. I think if you drop your aromasin to 6.25mg ED... or cut it out completely at this point, your libido shall increase. GOOD LUCK!


I could definitely drop it down. I was running arimidex at .5 mg EOD during the actual cycle if it makes a difference.
 
AB is on point. Get some cialis, longer acting and you can take it hours before sex, Viagra hits harder but needs to be taken with in an hour before.

But neither will fix libido, and when my libido is gone, I don't care how hot my woman is, and how much she is willing to do, I just don't have any interest. That's only happened one time but crashing my estro, I explained the problem and she tried and got some half assed but whatever I make up for it the rest of the year.

This is a common feeling because of hormones fluctuating. What did you gain on cycle, what was your cycle, and have you stopped training and eating in post cycle therapy (pct)?

I know you said you lost appetite but you lost all your gains fast. Stay off the scale and focus on eating, sleeping, training. Don't worry yourself so much about the libido, it's temporary and will become mental really fast. I know I've been more focused on worrying about keeping an erection then I was about handling my business, and that will ruin it for you. Cialis helps. Both are safe to take. Most prefer cialis, Viagra can cause headaches, but they can also help control bp, can be used like N O pre workout supps and can give you peace of mind.

The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should have really cut down the hormone crash which it sounds like you are experiencing. Your T is low, estro is low or high but with all the aromisin I'm guessing it's low. Aromisin is good in post cycle therapy (pct) IMO to elevate T a bit but taking to much can just continue negative feedback loop. Clomid makes some guys feel kinda depressed.

What you have to do is man up, say fuck it, and do not let anything hold you down. Eat and eat more, you need fuel for muscle, eat even if you aren't hungry, train hard and heavy low reps but a little less intensity and do not be in the gym more than 30-45 minutes. Just in and out.

I hate to see guys lose everything after a cycle because they start to feel down and amplify what hormones are making them feel. Fuk the scale, it doesn't mean shit unless you are under contract as an athlete or competing. Other then that it doesn't mean shit, go by what you see in the mirror and if still not happy, evaluate your weak points and work on them. But there is some serious problems in your program. You should not lose all your gains that quick or at all if you are not already pushing beyond your genetic potential. Don't give up and keep your head up. Life cannot be that bad considering you have women willing to let you pound it out, but always remember any gains that came easy, are easy to lose.

You should be feeling better very soon and I would lower that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose by half but you need to judge it by how you feel. Sounds like you followed a posted protocol that's typically for many of us but you adjust the doses to fit yourself.
 
AB is on point. Get some cialis, longer acting and you can take it hours before sex, Viagra hits harder but needs to be taken with in an hour before.

But neither will fix libido, and when my libido is gone, I don't care how hot my woman is, and how much she is willing to do, I just don't have any interest. That's only happened one time but crashing my estro, I explained the problem and she tried and got some half assed but whatever I make up for it the rest of the year.

This is a common feeling because of hormones fluctuating. What did you gain on cycle, what was your cycle, and have you stopped training and eating in post cycle therapy (pct)?

I know you said you lost appetite but you lost all your gains fast. Stay off the scale and focus on eating, sleeping, training. Don't worry yourself so much about the libido, it's temporary and will become mental really fast. I know I've been more focused on worrying about keeping an erection then I was about handling my business, and that will ruin it for you. Cialis helps. Both are safe to take. Most prefer cialis, Viagra can cause headaches, but they can also help control bp, can be used like N O pre workout supps and can give you peace of mind.

The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should have really cut down the hormone crash which it sounds like you are experiencing. Your T is low, estro is low or high but with all the aromisin I'm guessing it's low. Aromisin is good in post cycle therapy (pct) IMO to elevate T a bit but taking to much can just continue negative feedback loop. Clomid makes some guys feel kinda depressed.

What you have to do is man up, say fuck it, and do not let anything hold you down. Eat and eat more, you need fuel for muscle, eat even if you aren't hungry, train hard and heavy low reps but a little less intensity and do not be in the gym more than 30-45 minutes. Just in and out.

I hate to see guys lose everything after a cycle because they start to feel down and amplify what hormones are making them feel. Fuk the scale, it doesn't mean shit unless you are under contract as an athlete or competing. Other then that it doesn't mean shit, go by what you see in the mirror and if still not happy, evaluate your weak points and work on them. But there is some serious problems in your program. You should not lose all your gains that quick or at all if you are not already pushing beyond your genetic potential. Don't give up and keep your head up. Life cannot be that bad considering you have women willing to let you pound it out, but always remember any gains that came easy, are easy to lose.

You should be feeling better very soon and I would lower that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose by half but you need to judge it by how you feel. Sounds like you followed a posted protocol that's typically for many of us but you adjust the doses to fit yourself.

First off, I have to thank you for such a long and well thought out response. Secondly, although I seem to be feeling some chemical depression I'm doing my best to stay mentally cogniscent of the fact that it is chemical and expected. As far as scale v. mirror, I do feel like I look better now than before the cycle so whether or not that is accurate at least I feel better about myself. As I said, I recognize the fact that losing all of that weight must represent some weak link in the chain, which is most likely diet. I need lots of work there and am exploring options including 3J.

I would also like to say that you and your pm's meant so much to me throughout this entire ordeal. You helped ease concerns that I had and I'm sure use AAS more safely.

Thank you.
 
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Also, with the exception of today my training has remained constant and I have continued to eat every 2 to 3 hours while using weight gainer shakes at night. I probably dont eat as much though. I get full very easily. I know you told me to keep workouts to 45 minutes and I may have stretched that out a few times. I feel very exhausted and exasperated. Dont know if its related but I woke up with the worst cramps I've ever had in my hamstrings at about 2am last night following a leg day. Body just feels like its at its breaking point.

I won't give up training though and you're right about my life being good. I've had plenty of dry spells with women in my life and I always appreciate when I garner interest from them.
 
It's normal to have a low libido obviously for post cycle therapy (pct). I think your estrogen levels are low and test. It will come back. Some may disagree but I would take out the aromasin and just stick with nolva or clomid

Agreed on dropping the Aro and keep on the Nolv-Clo.

If you have dead dick you can make it up with fingers and mouth, that how I roll.
 
cialis and viagra don't do sh!t if low estro is your problem. And I'm willing to bet it is. 25mg ED of aromasin is a very hefty dose, way too much for not even being on AAS anymore.
 
cialis and viagra don't do sh!t if low estro is your problem. And I'm willing to bet it is. 25mg ED of aromasin is a very hefty dose, way too much for not even being on AAS anymore.

Sounds like 6.25 is the way to go then.
 
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