Should I Or Should I Not

BodybuilderX

BodybuilderX

Borderline Insane
Okay guys, I'm on the verge of ordering all my products. I've done a fair amount of research and know the side-effects and problems I could have further down the line, however, My mind is made up. I will accept feedback and constructive criticism :)

Before I get into stats, I would like to say my overall reason for taking steroids is that, when i was 17 years old, I started taking test boosters. I did not know the tapering down process of Novodex XT, and it resulted in some Gyno and messing up my hormonal balance.

Stats:
Age: 22 years old
Height: 5'11 feet
Weight: 175lbs
BF: 14%
Goal: Lean bulk to 200lbs while maintaining 14-16% BF.

Diet: I posted my diet in 3J's Forum but in summary, I will be eating 3500-4000 Cals, Macronutrient basis of: 40/30/30. Manipulating my Carb intake to prevent too much bloating.
Protein Intake: 300g ED
Carb intake: 100g-400g ED (Carb days)
Fat intake: 100g-150g ED
Water intake: 4-5Litres ED

I know diet is key for results, I will try to eat as much as i can 6x times a day, with my work schedule sometimes its challenging and meal prep becomes more of a priority but i will do my best.

AAS Cycle 1:

-Test E 500mg 2x Week for 12 weeks (Monday/Thursday)
-Adex 0.25/0.5mg EOD Throughout cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) to prevent Gyno
-Clomid: 100/50/50/50
-Nolva: 40/40/20/20/20
-HCG: 250IU 2x week throughout Cycle.
HCG Blast: 14 days after last pin of Test E, administer 1500-2000iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD for 10 shots, Start Serm treatment 3-4 days after last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shot.

Perform Blood work after Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast to see how test levels are doing and if further Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is neccesary before commencing SERM treatment

Workout Schedule:
Monday: Chest/Triceps/Calves+30 minutes Low-intensity Cardio
Tuesday: Back/Biceps/Abs+15 minute stretching+10 minute foam rolling
Wednesday: Rest Day/15 minute Stretching+30 minutes L.I.S.S
Thursday: Quads/Calves+20 minutes H.I.T.T
Friday: Shoulders/Traps/Abs+15 minutes stretching/Foaming Rolling
Saturday: Squats+Deads+BP+30 minutes Conditioning/15 minute stretching
Sunday: OFF/Rest/Reform diet

I would also like to say I was recently 190lbs but was unsatisfied by the way i bulked, contained too much fat. So i know how food consumption will be the underlying factor in determining my results.

What i need to know is that if juicing at 22 years old will really mess up my hormonal balance, Im following all the best procedures and will get blood work done after my cycle.

Thanks :D
 
22 IMO, is a smidge too young.

I say, take a year and shed some of that fat, get disciplined with diet. At 23-24, hitthe juice like a boss and all of your other habits will be strong and formed.

Is that what you wanted to hear? No. Is that what I think? Yes.

At the end of the day, it's your choice my dude and we're here to help.
 
If you just had to do it, I would make it a cutting cycle and run 500mg per week and Annihilate my body fat percentage.

Totally uneducated opinion.
 
Why not do GAY HOMO BUTT SEX???? Both Vetinova (the makers of THE MONSTER BLACK DILDO) and Salud Animal (the makers of THE VIBRATING HOMO ANAL TICKLER) guarantee that you willBE THE GAYEST IDIOT ON THE BLOCK. So, worse case, you would weigh in at 197, just spitting distance from your goal, and you could realistically reach 210. Here is a link to their site:
 
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i think your ready you did your homework. just dont be stupid and take time off AAS. maybe 1 or 2 cycles per year. i read iin MD test works better when your younger and you should recover quicker. kinda wish i started earlier. drop test dosage to 250 per shot or 200 M/Thurs. id probably start with 250 1 shot every 5 days. more isnt better just more sides and its harder to recover. you have to find what works for you. i dont think all that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is mandatory but it certainly wont hurt.
 
davidslaton19 said:
NOTE: Vetinova does NOT ship to the US, this is NOT a source because the product is only available in Mexico. This information is so you can contact the company and inform yourself about the product.
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Listen bro i know you've been in the game for a while, and you seem really intelligent, but the fact your throwing phone numbers out is crazy. Not to mention Dbol. I could see if this was a vet, but he's new and prob has no idea what your talking about. Keep it simple. Test only for a first cycle but this guy clearly has just a little bit of work to do before he takes the next step. I'd advise him maybe to wait a few years tops before he goes at it. Leave that source shot out the window bro. That's gonna do nothing but get you in trouble here. Trust me. But like i said this kid should get his diet perfect, bf down a but, and wait a year or so to put on about 15lbs of muscle. That's my opinion and I'm sure a lot of others guys. This is in his best intrest as well as yours. In America steroids ate illegal, so you cant openly source talk (which you say this isn't source talk)or call numbers and try to buy roids. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out not to take your advice. I'm not saying its not legit. I'm just saying its pointless to say shit like that around here.
 
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BodybuilderX said:
Okay guys, I'm on the verge of ordering all my products. I've done a fair amount of research and know the side-effects and problems I could have further down the line, however, My mind is made up. I will accept feedback and constructive criticism :)

Before I get into stats, I would like to say my overall reason for taking steroids is that, when i was 17 years old, I started taking test boosters. I did not know the tapering down process of Novodex XT, and it resulted in some Gyno and messing up my hormonal balance.

Stats:
Age: 22 years old
Height: 5'11 feet
Weight: 175lbs
BF: 14%
Goal: Lean bulk to 200lbs while maintaining 14-16% BF.

Diet: I posted my diet in 3J's Forum but in summary, I will be eating 3500-4000 Cals, Macronutrient basis of: 40/30/30. Manipulating my Carb intake to prevent too much bloating.
Protein Intake: 300g ED
Carb intake: 100g-400g ED (Carb days)
Fat intake: 100g-150g ED
Water intake: 4-5Litres ED

I know diet is key for results, I will try to eat as much as i can 6x times a day, with my work schedule sometimes its challenging and meal prep becomes more of a priority but i will do my best.

AAS Cycle 1:

-Test E 500mg 2x Week for 12 weeks (Monday/Thursday)
-Adex 0.25/0.5mg EOD Throughout cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) to prevent Gyno
-Clomid: 100/50/50/50
-Nolva: 40/40/20/20/20
-HCG: 250IU 2x week throughout Cycle.
HCG Blast: 14 days after last pin of Test E, administer 1500-2000iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD for 10 shots, Start Serm treatment 3-4 days after last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shot.

Perform Blood work after Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast to see how test levels are doing and if further Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is neccesary before commencing SERM treatment

Workout Schedule:
Monday: Chest/Triceps/Calves+30 minutes Low-intensity Cardio
Tuesday: Back/Biceps/Abs+15 minute stretching+10 minute foam rolling
Wednesday: Rest Day/15 minute Stretching+30 minutes L.I.S.S
Thursday: Quads/Calves+20 minutes H.I.T.T
Friday: Shoulders/Traps/Abs+15 minutes stretching/Foaming Rolling
Saturday: Squats+Deads+BP+30 minutes Conditioning/15 minute stretching
Sunday: OFF/Rest/Reform diet

I would also like to say I was recently 190lbs but was unsatisfied by the way i bulked, contained too much fat. So i know how food consumption will be the underlying factor in determining my results.

What i need to know is that if juicing at 22 years old will really mess up my hormonal balance, Im following all the best procedures and will get blood work done after my cycle.

Thanks :D
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Hey there, I know I am female and don't take AAS, so anyone correct me if I am wrong in anything I say, just seems a little like common sense and reading the sticky's would tell this kid the same stuff. Now that my disclaimer is done....

Why would you want to start your diet after you start your cycle? Wouldn't you want to get your diet on point first, get to your natty potential then start a cycle? It sounds like you are in kind of a rush to get started but aren't taking into consideration that you will get more from your cycle if you are already dialed in before you start. You are already taking the first step by talking to 3J, but I say get to your natty potential first then come back and post stats and what your goal is.
 
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bigherm2121 said:
Listen bro i know you've been in the game for a while, and you seem really intelligent, but the fact your throwing phone numbers out is crazy. Not to mention Dbol. I could see if this was a vet, but he's new and prob has no idea what your talking about. Keep it simple. Test only for a first cycle but this guy clearly has just a little bit of work to do before he takes the next step. I'd advise him maybe to wait a few years tops before he goes at it. Leave that source shot out the window bro. That's gonna do nothing but get you in trouble here. Trust me. But like i said this kid should get his diet perfect, bf down a but, and wait a year or so to put on about 15lbs of muscle. That's my opinion and I'm sure a lot of others guys. This is in his best intrest as well as yours. In America steroids ate illegal, so you cant openly source talk (which you say this isn't source talk)or call numbers and try to buy roids. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out not to take your advice. I'm not saying its not legit. I'm just saying its pointless to say shit like that around here.
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see i disagree bigherm...ive seen all this guy's posts and i don't think hes intelligent at all!
 
davidslaton19 said:
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man you need to chill on this mexico bullshit. the info you posted here is worthless. I know your trying to help people but just giving your opinion is plenty. There is no reason for you to put your own contact info out there for people to get ahold of you for stuff. I seen your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) posts the other day and you were stepping out of your boundries by offering to basically order Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from your mexican company and shipping it yourself to the US. Just chill on this I got the hook up shit...nobody cares. Give good advice or none at all.
 
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Sassytassie84 said:
Hey there, I know I am female and don't take AAS, so anyone correct me if I am wrong in anything I say, just seems a little like common sense and reading the sticky's would tell this kid the same stuff. Now that my disclaimer is done....

Why would you want to start your diet after you start your cycle? Wouldn't you want to get your diet on point first, get to your natty potential then start a cycle? It sounds like you are in kind of a rush to get started but aren't taking into consideration that you will get more from your cycle if you are already dialed in before you start. You are already taking the first step by talking to 3J, but I say get to your natty potential first then come back and post stats and what your goal is.
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Famale or not Sassie, you're dead on the money! Diet should be habit and dead on prior to your cycle.
 
Imma go buy me a rooster this weekend at the flea market and run a cycle of test deca tren to see what happens. I migh not even Pct the damn thing so it grows boobs. Ill let yall know how it goes.
 
slair said:
see i disagree bigherm...ive seen all this guy's posts and i don't think hes intelligent at all!
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It's nice to see I have a new friend slair :) Anyway, back to the subject. If at all possible, you should take human grade or veterinary grade gear. Bigherm has a point, test is a good beginner cycle. The veterinary Dianabol tablets have their advantage because there are no injections, which is nice for a beginner.

Just make sure the gear is good. I have attached a photo of the underground steroid laboratory run by Axio (I know you are probably not taking Axio's test E, but all underground labs are pretty much the same), and the Bayer factory. Ask yourself if you would want to inject ANYTHING made in those conditions.
 
Thanks everyone for the educated feedback, I really appreciate it. I think i'll take this advice and wait until my diet is on point before beggining the cycle, I know it seems like i'm jumping the gun, I'm probably letting my ego get to me. I should be wise and wait until my test levels are prime before I start injecting.

I don't want to regret taking AAS, so might as well do it when i'm ready :)
 
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