Snake's First Cycle

[Solid Snake]

so my cycle is planned to start in little over a week and I found out today my buddy wants to trade me a vial of test he has for a supply of nolva i have because his cycle is almost over and he doesnt want to bother ordering some when he can get it from me.

so regardless Ill trade with him but my question is should I use it for this first cycle and run it to 15-16 weeks? I know everyone recommends 12 weeks for the first go around but at that point what is 3 more weeks? Ive got plenty of adex to run it that much longer. Any input is appreciated.

 

[Solid Snake]

Just an update on the DES. Im starting to feel the pumps. I pinned my tris yesterday and did a chest workout...they got pretty tight doing that but then i did a couple of tri isolation lifts and after that it was almost painful. Same thing with bis this morning. I get a good pump from doing my back lifts but once i concentrate on the muscle group i pin the pump is insane.

 

[PaiN iiS pLeasuRE]

EnjOy...if your looking to get housed out id deff bump tht 400mg up to 700mg or 800mg though

im looking to add some igf 1 lr3 to my cycle also i just read into mixing it and it seems a bit confusing...i hear good things about it...post ur updates

 

[Solid Snake]

EnjOy...if your looking to get housed out id deff bump tht 400mg up to 700mg or 800mg though

im looking to add some igf 1 lr3 to my cycle also i just read into mixing it and it seems a bit confusing...i hear good things about it...post ur updates

Im trying to decide which is a better route to go since I just came across another vial of test...higher dose for a shorter cycle (12weeks) or keep it at 400mg and go 15-16 weeks...or just leave it be and stash the vial for later. tough decision.

 

[Zeek]

EnjOy...if your looking to get housed out id deff bump tht 400mg up to 700mg or 800mg though

im looking to add some igf 1 lr3 to my cycle also i just read into mixing it and it seems a bit confusing...i hear good things about it...post ur updates

Come on Pain it's snakes first cycle! He does not need 800mg of test

Im trying to decide which is a better route to go since I just came across another vial of test...higher dose for a shorter cycle (12weeks) or keep it at 400mg and go 15-16 weeks...or just leave it be and stash the vial for later. tough decision.

Stick to the initial plan. It was the best plan! You will want a nice late spring cycle to take you into the summer so do limit this one to 12 weeks. Gains from week 12-15 are nothing special anyway, trust me on this.

 

[Solid Snake]

Come on Pain it's snakes first cycle! He does not need 800mg of test



Stick to the initial plan. It was the best plan! You will want a nice late spring cycle to take you into the summer so do limit this one to 12 weeks. Gains from week 12-15 are nothing special anyway, trust me on this.

Ive been leaning on keeping things as is. If I did up my dose it would only be to 500-600mg but Id prefer to try that amount next cycle. Ive put too much planning into this to change it all last minute. I am, however, going to change my start date to January 2nd. I figure it will be a good way to start out the new year. Im going to run DES through all of December and take my 4 weeks of while Im on dbol.

 

[DaHurt]

Sounds like a good plan man. Glad to hear you're feeling the DES now - did you increase the dose?

 

[Solid Snake]

Sounds like a good plan man. Glad to hear you're feeling the DES now - did you increase the dose?

no Im still at 50mcg. I dont know what the difference is all of a sudden but my arms were feeling it.

 

[Solid Snake]

Speaking of DES, has anyone else noticed the huge increase in price at GWP?

 

[DaHurt]

No, I haven't looked lately - stocked up pretty good back when it was half off, and my LR3 is coming from Osta

 

[DaHurt]

That's what happens when demand goes up I guess...dunno if we can post prices up here tho bro.

Osta has great feedback so I doubt they'll disappoint. Hard to beat GWP's turnaround on shipping though.

 

[Solid Snake]

That's what happens when demand goes up I guess...dunno if we can post prices up here tho bro.

Osta has great feedback so I doubt they'll disappoint. Hard to beat GWP's turnaround on shipping though.

It seems that all of these suppliers are always having some kind of sale so Ill just keep an eye out for the good ones.

I was just reading up on zeeks post regarding igf testing. Im curious to see the results of some these tests and get a perspective into how effective these peps actually are.

 

[DaHurt]

Likewise - which is why I don't mind participating, so we can actually some evidence that isn't just anecdotal.

 

[Zeek]

It seems that all of these suppliers are always having some kind of sale so Ill just keep an eye out for the good ones.

I was just reading up on zeeks post regarding igf testing. Im curious to see the results of some these tests and get a perspective into how effective these peps actually are.

It really is that simple, stock up when the sales are there! That insane price the three of us got in on for the DES was just too good to pass up. And all 3 of us seem very happy with the product to boot.

Likewise - which is why I don't mind participating, so we can actually some evidence that isn't just anecdotal.

It would be good for us to know where to invest our hard earned pennies. HGH or peptides or a combination of the two. We will get to the bottom of it working together guys

 

[Solid Snake]

It really is that simple, stock up when the sales are there! That insane price the three of us got in on for the DES was just too good to pass up. And all 3 of us seem very happy with the product to boot.



It would be good for us to know where to invest our hard earned pennies. HGH or peptides or a combination of the two. We will get to the bottom of it working together guys

I might get in on this testing too. Im holding off starting my test cycle a few weeks so I can get some blood work done around Xmas time. Its hard to get into the dr with work and what not but I have 7 days off over xmas so i want to get in. Then ill have a pre cycle point of reference. Im running the DES through december so maybe I could get my GH levels tested. Zeek youd have to let me know what all to check for but Id be interested in seeing what DES is doing. I could probably pin some in the parking lot right before i go in. PM me with what is needed.

 

[UserAt204]

Cycle looks very good my friend. Stick to 12 weeks for now. I like longer cycles but this is plenty for you. You could bump to 500mg but I'm sure you will have good results either way.

The pump from DES can get painful doing direct work. Lol. Can't wait to see your progress. We are pretty close in size but you have a couple inches on me and just a little more bf but judging by your pics you look good and have done very well without gear. I think you will eventually reach your goal. In order for me to get closer to 250 it usually means adding bf because my body just doesn't want to hold enough muscle. I guess I could always add a ton of androgens and slin and gh but not the plan.

Good luck man there is nothing better than a first.

 

[Solid Snake]

Cycle looks very good my friend. Stick to 12 weeks for now. I like longer cycles but this is plenty for you. You could bump to 500mg but I'm sure you will have good results either way.

The pump from DES can get painful doing direct work. Lol. Can't wait to see your progress. We are pretty close in size but you have a couple inches on me and just a little more bf but judging by your pics you look good and have done very well without gear. I think you will eventually reach your goal. In order for me to get closer to 250 it usually means adding bf because my body just doesn't want to hold enough muscle. I guess I could always add a ton of androgens and slin and gh but not the plan.

Good luck man there is nothing better than a first.

thanks man. ive been looking forward to this for many years. Ive decided to keep it at 400mg for the 12 weeks like i originally planned. I think for my next cycle I might look into doing a test only cycle for 15-20 weeks and try to cut/recomp, but that is still a long way out so I cant get too caught up in planning that yet.

 

[balboa270]

Keep up the logs if you get the des

 

[PaiN iiS pLeasuRE]

Im trying to decide which is a better route to go since I just came across another vial of test...higher dose for a shorter cycle (12weeks) or keep it at 400mg and go 15-16 weeks...or just leave it be and stash the vial for later. tough decision.

i personally would bump it up to 700mg of test and run that dose the whole way through i think you would be a lot happier when you wake up and look in the mirror...400 is good but its going to be a very sloow gradual gain and your strength will go upp but nothing crazy with 700 you should be very happy.

i would run 400 for the first 3 weeks while it really gets through your body and gets put to work...then bump it upp to 700 untill your done.

different strokes for different folks thoo

 

[PaiN iiS pLeasuRE]

Come on Pain it's snakes first cycle! He does not need 800mg of test



Stick to the initial plan. It was the best plan! You will want a nice late spring cycle to take you into the summer so do limit this one to 12 weeks. Gains from week 12-15 are nothing special anyway, trust me on this.

listen to zeek i just re read your original post...you did pro hormone cycles before not aas sorry.

you body should respond great with that cycle for your first time around and your post cycle therapy (pct) looks really good i wish i did things that way my first time around lol...