Snake's First Cycle

[VirginMuscle]

Some days I felt lethargic on dbol. I never had sore or sensitive nipples though. Does it bother you wearing a shirt too?

 

[Solid Snake]

It doesn't bother me at all unless I push in on my nipple...it's not even the nipple itself that hurts but something underneath...it's hard to describe. It's not really a hard ball but more like a small bump

 

[VirginMuscle]

It doesn't bother me at all unless I push in on my nipple...it's not even the nipple itself that hurts but something underneath...it's hard to describe. It's not really a hard ball but more like a small bump

That sucks. I don't think you're paranoid because you said you felt the same thing doing prohormones. I think you're doing the right thing hitting it with nolvadex. You might not want to drop it right away because it might go away soon.

 

[Solid Snake]

I'll play the next few days by ear and see what happens. I've got some aromasin on the way that I'm going to try instead of the Adex. If this little issue clears up I'll probably run the Nolva until the dbol is gone and then continue you on with the Adex or aromasin and see what happens.

 

[VirginMuscle]

I'll play the next few days by ear and see what happens. I've got some aromasin on the way that I'm going to try instead of the Adex. If this little issue clears up I'll probably run the Nolva until the dbol is gone and then continue you on with the Adex or aromasin and see what happens.

Why are you switching to aromasin? Adex is stronger for estro suppression. It's good that you know you are susceptible though for future cycles and what it feels like.

 

[Solid Snake]

I'm not set on it...Ive been taking .5mg of the liquid Adex and i don't think it's working...I've got some presecrition Adex but not enough to last the whole cycle..I'll see what happens with the Nolva.

I really haven't had many gyno problems in the past...superdrol got me and then the tren...I've done several other prohormone cycles without any problems.

 

[Solid Snake]

Day 5

Did arms this morning and all I can say is HOLY PUMP! The dbol is definitely in effect. I havent checked any weight gains yet because I know whatever gains there are it is mostly water. Ill check this weeknd sometime. . I look fuller and can definitely notice a loss of definition

 

[DaHurt]

Day 5

Did arms this morning and all I can say is HOLY PUMP! The dbol is definitely in effect. I havent checked any weight gains yet because I know whatever gains there are it is mostly water. Ill check this weeknd sometime. . I look fuller and can definitely notice a loss of definition

Awesome man, did you also inject DES pre?

 

[Solid Snake]

Awesome man, did you also inject DES pre?

No Im off the DES right now. Im going to start it back up as soon as I finish the dbol. I figured Id give myself a little break from it being that I was on it for about 5 weeks.

 

[DaHurt]

No Im off the DES right now. Im going to start it back up as soon as I finish the dbol. I figured Id give myself a little break from it being that I was on it for about 5 weeks.

Good deal...how would you compare the dbol pump to the DES pump? Similar? It may be too much to stack them!

 

[Solid Snake]

Good deal...how would you compare the dbol pump to the DES pump? Similar? It may be too much to stack them!

I would say they are comparable, at least to me. Both pumps came quickly and brought on a good amount of pain towards the end of my workout.

 

[Solid Snake]

Well good news on my gyno fear. The Nolva and Adex seem to be helping. The pain has died down and the lump appears smaller today. I'll keep running the Nolva for a few more days and see what happens. I'm about to get an ab workout in and then I am just going to kick it the rest of the weekend.

 

[Solid Snake]

Day 7

No gym today. I finally weighed myself last night and came in at 242. I didn't weigh myself on day one but I've been hanging around 233-235 most days so id say it's a 7-9 pound gain in 6 days. My bloat has gone down since adding the legit Adex and Nolva so Im not holding as much water as I could be but obviously I know it's still mostly water weight.

 

[Solid Snake]

Day 8

Didnt lift this morning. I ended up playing some pick up basketball last night for a couple of hours and I was a hurtin' afterwards. I also slept like shit last night. Ive been waking up around 3am every night since starting my cycle. I usually just drink some water and fall back asleep but I couldnt get back to sleep this time.

Ive been considering dropping the dbol and adding either epi, superdrol, or phera since I have all three stashed away in a shoe box. Ill see how this week goes I guess.

 

[Solid Snake]

Day 9

Did chest this morning and overall it was pretty good.

Bench - 2 warm up sets - 135x10 & 225x5
295x5
305x5
315x5
325x5
335x4

DB Incline
90sx8
100x8
110x6

DB Fly
55x10
60x8
65x8

Machine Fly
180x8
190x8

Dips
BWx20x3 sets

Overall my strength is increasing and Im getting good pumps in the gym. Those are the pros of the cycle right now.

The cons would be that I sleep like shit. Ive had bad night sweats the last couple of nights along with dehydration. Im drinking probably close to 2+ gallons of water a day but continue to wake up in need of water. The lethargy continues but im getting used to it. It's at its worst post workout but after I eat im usually feeling better.

The lump under my nipple is still there. It doesnt hurt or bother me...at least not physical. Mentally I dont like the idea. Im still not sure what it is. Like Ive said its not a ball that I can grab. It feels attached to the muscle because it doesnt move around. Only way i can think to describe it would be to imagine a vein running diagnol across your areaola and its just swollen...its weird. It's also just my left one, the right is completely fine.

As long as these cons dont get any worse Im going to up the dose of the dbol to 40mg next week. If that goes well Im going to shoot for 50mg my final week, just to finish off what I have.

Im also still running 40mg nolva ed and today i backed my dose of adex down to .25 eod. I might start going eod with nolva too. i just need to look into what it has for a half life.

 

[Boxdog]

day 3

so last night/today my gyno paranoia set in. It seems odd to me that it would set in after only 3 days. Ive actually only been taking 30mg of dbol after I recounted what I had available and Ive been doing .5mg of RUI liquidex eod.

Anyway, the reason im slightly worried is because my left nipple is a little sore and it feels a little swollen under the nipple. I cant grab a little ball or anything but something that runs under the nipple is sensitive to the touch...not the actually nipple itself. The usual symptoms arent there though. In the past the nipple it self gets really sensitive and burns a little bit and they get a really soft look to them. this I dont feel at all unless i push against my nipple and they look normal. it feels like pushing on a bruise as far as what the pain is like...not bad but it's definitely there. I had something similar to this happen when I was on a tren/hdrol prohormone cycle a few years back. That came after 5 weeks though, not 2 days. It cleared up quickly in post cycle.

In my 2nd week I had a few days where my nipples felt weird, I assumed gyno was kicking in, but after a few days of not thinking about it, all symptoms seemed to vanish. Was very weird. Anywho, I have kept an eye on it, but not stressing. Have Nolva on hand just in case, but havent had to use it yet. The mind can be as convincing as the real symptoms!

 

[Solid Snake]

Day 10

I decided to up my dose to 40mg and run that through the remainder of the dbol. So in total it will be 8 days at 30mg and 20 days at 40mg. I slept a little better last night, didnt wake up until 4:30 this time. It took me a while to get moving in the gym but once i did I had a pretty good day. Lifts are all moving up

Back

BB Row
205x5
215x5
225x5
245x5
255x5

Chins
BWx8x3 sets

Close Grip Low Row
240x10
260x10

Lat Pulldown
180x10
200x10

Smith Shrug
285x10x3 sets

 

[Solid Snake]

and for your first time you should have damn good results

that's all I can hope for.

 

[Solid Snake]

Day 11

I got better sleep last night. Made it through to 5:30 which Ill take because my alarm goes off at 5:45. Im not feeling as congested either so maybe that may explain some of my sleeping issues. Ill check my weight again this weekend to get a feel for where Im at.

Legs

Squat
315x5
335x5
365x5
375x5
385x3

Curl
105x10
110x10
110x8

Ext
200x8
210x8
220x8

Seated Calf Raise
225x15
235x15
250x15

 

[Solid Snake]

No gym today. I checked my weight last night and Im still at 242. I feel I dont look near as bloated as I did the last time I weighed myself. Im also on nolva and adex so Im probably not holding as much water weight. I try not to judge by the numbers on the scale but by what i see in the mirror and Im looking fuller so Im still happy.