Starting 2nd cycle, need feedback

Matty B

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Im starting my second cycle soon, after christmas I think. It is going to be 800mg test/ 600mg deca every week. Im pining 400mg test/ 300mg deca mon and thursday, along with eating right and hardcore lifting and mma training. My first cycle was very ill-advised, I did sust250 for 10wks. I only pinned 1 time a week at 1ml. So obviously im looking for much better gains this time. Any advise?
 
Im starting my second cycle soon, after christmas I think. It is going to be 800mg test/ 600mg deca every week. Im pining 400mg test/ 300mg deca mon and thursday, along with eating right and hardcore lifting and mma training. My first cycle was very ill-advised, I did sust250 for 10wks. I only pinned 1 time a week at 1ml. So obviously im looking for much better gains this time. Any advise?

personally id do test 500 and and deca 400mg per week. Since its ure 2nd cycle ull still make great gains, with this amount. And more likely lesss sides.

Hope ure not ill informed about post cycle therapy (pct). What that looking like?
 
Well actually I was gunna be posting soon on advice for post cycle therapy (pct). I have some nolva and I was thinking
Week 1 40mg nolva ed
Week 2 30mg nolva ed
Week 3 20mg nolva ed
Week 4 10mg nolva ed

Thats all I have in the works right now. Im holding off on the cycle till I can get more info on everything. Now what about Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during the cycl. Any advise on pct or Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would be greatly appreciated. The sooner I figure out my exact cycle I can start!
 
Well actually I was gunna be posting soon on advice for post cycle therapy (pct). I have some nolva and I was thinking
Week 1 40mg nolva ed
Week 2 30mg nolva ed
Week 3 20mg nolva ed
Week 4 10mg nolva ed

Thats all I have in the works right now. Im holding off on the cycle till I can get more info on everything. Now what about Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during the cycl. Any advise on pct or Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would be greatly appreciated. The sooner I figure out my exact cycle I can start!

You can use adex or aromasin for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle.

Pct ,
Nolva-20mg ed for 4 weeks
Clomid-50mg ed for 4 weeks.

Another option
Is nolva and aromasin. Different dosages of course.
Its be 20mg for nolva and 25mg of aromasin.
 
bro you do not need that much gear for your second cycle. 600test e/400 deca will suffice for you.

I would run adex on cycle for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and aromasin after cycle and through pct

std pct is clomid 50/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20
 
I came to those numbers cuz I have test 400 and deca 300. So I was just going with one ml each per pin. So at 600/400 what can I expect compared to 800/600. Just more sides with higher dose? like I said, just tryin to feel out some opinions on here.
 
all your gains are mainly going to be made through diet. You def can expect more sides. Your last cycle was very low dosed and ran improperly so really this is your first cycle. Your gains wouldnt be all that much greater at the dose you laid out anyway.
 
I'm with everyone else bro, cuz your dosage, it's not necessary to go that high.

You're gonna get huge with test and deca combined even with a smaller dose.
 
I'm with everyone else bro, cuz your dosage, it's not necessary to go that high.

You're gonna get huge with test and deca combined even with a smaller dose.

Exactly.

Stick with lower dose. Make nutrition priority and u will easily gain.
 
your going from 250 mg a week 1st cycle to 1400 mg a week 2nd cycle lol . 500 mg a week test and 400 mg a week deca is more than enough.
 
Well technically this will be my 3rd cycle, my second was
Cyp 500mg/ deca 250mg every week
But that cycle was cut short at 8 weeks due to legal problems. So I really dont count that as my second cycle.
 
Im starting my second cycle soon, after christmas I think. It is going to be 800mg test/ 600mg deca every week. Im pining 400mg test/ 300mg deca mon and thursday, along with eating right and hardcore lifting and mma training. My first cycle was very ill-advised, I did sust250 for 10wks. I only pinned 1 time a week at 1ml. So obviously im looking for much better gains this time. Any advise?

Your taking way too much gear for a second cycle,theres no need for it. Like has been sed to you,diet is what is key. I took 250mg test for first cycle,for my second il take 500 with a little dbol. You can make good gains on tht if diet is in check
 
And is it really necessary to stack nolva and clomid, cuz I wanted to stay away from clomid cuz the vision problems. Cant I just use nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) and use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like arimedex during the cycle
 
personally id do test 500 and and deca 400mg per week. Since its ure 2nd cycle ull still make great gains, with this amount. And more likely lesss sides.

Hope ure not ill informed about post cycle therapy (pct). What that looking like?
Dude research before you give members bad info.
 
Ok heres the deal, my diet is on point ive worked it up with my friend who is a pro bodybuilder, personal trainer and dietition. plus I am a mma fighter, my diet and training regiment is great. Now im looking to jump up weight classes, im 5 10 160lbs. Im lookinf to get to aroung 185-190. So with a high calorie and high protein diet, along with protein/ weight gainer shakes and a very serious training reg. What do u guys think I should run for gear
500t/400d
Or
600t/450d
 
And is it really necessary to stack nolva and clomid, cuz I wanted to stay away from clomid cuz the vision problems. Cant I just use nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) and use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like arimedex during the cycle

clomid vision side effects are exxagerated , ran it many times with zero problems.
 
Ok heres the deal, my diet is on point ive worked it up with my friend who is a pro bodybuilder, personal trainer and dietition. plus I am a mma fighter, my diet and training regiment is great. Now im looking to jump up weight classes, im 5 10 160lbs. Im lookinf to get to aroung 185-190. So with a high calorie and high protein diet, along with protein/ weight gainer shakes and a very serious training reg. What do u guys think I should run for gear
500t/400d
Or
600t/450d

25-30 pounds of KEEPABLE gains is a bit to much to expect from a cycle , especially if the athlete is highly trained and is doing lots of cardio [ mma ] . slow and steady wins the race .
 
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