Cobra Strike
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to the op....oral only is absolutely retarded...good luck with that
STOP dissin Dbol!!
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RAW3NVY
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DADAWG
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this isnt exactly true . dbol tends to bloat more than test in most people so they think they lost more when they come off but it was just water to begin with.
IMO any true lean mass gains made made by either compound would be the same. in othet words you would keep the same amount of each post cycle if all other things were equal.
replica1
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Exactly. Cut and dried all AAS are just another form of Testosterone.
Im sure ill make good gains. And how much youll keep post cycle is determined by so many factors other than the type of gear youre using.
RAW3NVY
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I know that you blow up with water weight.. mine is usually in the face/neck area.. I have read polls on here that you just dont keep most gains. I know you keep some just not as much as Test. I stand corrected if this isnt true.
LEARN me DAWG, shit..
tednatas
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ted, i never said dbol is stupid. this jackass just can't read. Like i said, dbol is great if used WITH test, etc. Its Dbol only that is retarded. same as any oral only like DAWG said.
and replica, your lame attempts to insult me are just that. I'm not angry. I'm just an asshole. And you're retarded. No one said you won't make gains. Its just you won't keep gains. Again, you have to read what i type. So why do a steroid if you won't keep gains. You'll see after this dumb ass cycle you are doing. Lemme ask why are doing a Dbol only cycle anyway if you have already done a test cycle? If you had any sense you would realize how much stronger you would be if you combined the two.
As for the balls comment, i don't speak retard so I'm not sure what you meant by that. And as for getting laid often... well, you can ask any member here what my wife looks like.
Nah bro I did not get you wrong! I just put you in there because I wanted tro say "oral only cycles are what I get from sluts in the club"
tednatas
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Haahahaha I had to say something cus I'm sure replica read what we were talking about yesterday.
You crazy bastard
5x10
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i also think post cycle gains is somewhat bs
why would one expect to maintain or keep the same levels of muscle/strength that are created from injectable roids(at levels 10-20 times more than an avg persons test)
to me, its kind of like saying
well, i did 10 weeks of meth cycle, i expect to keep some of the energy that I had while using it when i come off
tednatas
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Logically speaking...
Gains should be measured only in terms of strength, increased Lean Body Mass (after PCT)...and experience gained while on a cycle.
What you were week 10 means nothing in terms of "gains" if you ask me. How people fail to interpret the meaning is beyond me. There's always this argument where one dude says.......
"I (gained) 20 lbs then (lost) it when I came off"
Seems silly to me.
Why? because yes you were heavier and maybe stronger but you never "gained" a fucking thing... If one of you clowns does a Winstrol (winny) only cycle are you "leaner 3 weeks after yo started? No, but probably more of a man... If it is not your goal to get bigger then don't try. I just don't get how you could argue that dbol or any other mass building drug made you lose any gains. Unless your idea of gaining is false. Logically speaking of course
My name is Ted Natas and I will be here all week
Gains should be measured only in terms of strength, increased Lean Body Mass (after PCT)...and experience gained while on a cycle.
What you were week 10 means nothing in terms of "gains" if you ask me. How people fail to interpret the meaning is beyond me. There's always this argument where one dude says.......
"I (gained) 20 lbs then (lost) it when I came off"
Seems silly to me.
Why? because yes you were heavier and maybe stronger but you never "gained" a fucking thing... If one of you clowns does a Winstrol (winny) only cycle are you "leaner 3 weeks after yo started? No, but probably more of a man... If it is not your goal to get bigger then don't try. I just don't get how you could argue that dbol or any other mass building drug made you lose any gains. Unless your idea of gaining is false. Logically speaking of course
My name is Ted Natas and I will be here all week
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Dreaded Pirate Roberts
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Well a pissing contest your not going to win round here. So how about you ease your roll and try and learn something. Dbol only cycles are a problem because even with the best Aromatase inhibitor (AI) your still going to put on water and your going to loose water when you come off. I love the way my muscles look with Dbol very full, but the moon face you can keep.
ur missing the point brother. thats what were saying. the reason a person gets big on a cycle is because of the food they eat.
even if you are just looking for strength and recovery, dbol only is still stupid as the gains you make will not only be limited, but also hard to keep.
And as DaDAWG pointed out, you need test first and foremost. Yes dbol is a derivitive of it, its still not test.
And again, i'm not trying to be a dick, its just my way. I'm truly trying to help. The only way i know how is through lough love. Because as you see most guys won't listen.
ok, after reading the 2nd page of this thread, i'm done trying to explain. enjoy your water weight/strength gains and subsequent loss of both.
I love the idea that people would think its good to do steroids if they just think they are gonna lose the gains post cycle anyway. makes no fucking sense.
I love the idea that people would think its good to do steroids if they just think they are gonna lose the gains post cycle anyway. makes no fucking sense.
tednatas
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ur missing the point brother. thats what were saying. the reason a person gets big on a cycle is because of the food they eat.
even if you are just looking for strength and recovery, dbol only is still stupid as the gains you make will not only be limited, but also hard to keep.
And as DaDAWG pointed out, you need test first and foremost. Yes dbol is a derivitive of it, its still not test.
And again, i'm not trying to be a dick, its just my way. I'm truly trying to help. The only way i know how is through lough love. Because as you see most guys won't listen.
Tough love...like judge Mathis
5x10
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in all honesty, you can expect the same gain and loss of bloat on test
makes no sense to want to feel like superman every once in awhile?
i view roids like this, lifting is my hobby, has been for 17 yrs, will lift till the day i die
ive done 2 cycles and am about to start my 3rd
i can make real gains, that i dont have to worry about losing, during the 5-7 yrs i take in between cycles
roids are something that i understand is temporary, i get to be superman in the gym and the bedroom for 10-12 weeks and am willing to pay the consequences(pct) for that
no offense bro, but nobody can justify the use of roids for one reason or another
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