strange symptoms. am i gonna die?b

but maybe I should get some liquidex from ar-r and use it at 0.25mg twice per week? Austinite?


my whole cycle is Sus and deca for 10-12 weeks with Npp for the first 5 while deca kicks in.
 
oh yeh saw the GP before. He wants to do tests on my heart and stuff. So I have to wear something on my chest for 24 hours or something like that.?

He did BP and it was 130/90. He also suggests I have liver tests done to.
 
much better this morning, must be after eating a BIG carb meal. Ok im dropping protein down a bit, getting sick of chciekn anyway so im dropping 12oz of chicken. I just redid my BP its 130/90

nope not running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) only use it on 300mg of test over over. Normally I run 500mg of test. no caber as I cant get it and have prami but it fucks me up to bad.
And..............you have blood tests showing that you're not shitting out estradiol from your exogenous testosterone? You have elevated blood pressure, which is a common side effect from water retention caused by elevated estradiol. I'd get a blood test so you can at least rule out the easy stuff. But that's just what I would do, as I like being healthy and knowing what's going on with my body. ;)
 
If your having heart pains take an asprin and call the ambulance. Why would you be taking that much deca. Why use deca at all and why not Aromatase inhibitor (AI). your clearly bloated from the estrogen.
 
thanks for the replys guys. ill get some armidex srraigjt away. should i go armidrx or aromisan this time?
should i get caber to? or is liquidex enuf? if i get.my e2 under control via liquidex from ar r is caber or prami neccesary?
 
any reason why im lerthGic to? thinking its from bad sleep but any other probable causes?

e2?
prolactin?

or does deca in general make u lerthagic N feel shite lol
 
ffs happening again every time i got to 2-3rd werk of cycle feel a bit shitty and dony enjoy anything
FUCK is it all in my head or what? i came off last cycle of 750test and 600dexa cos in 3rd week felt shit 2-3weeks later was feeling so good. now back on and 2nd week in im lyong here in bed and just feel blank. maybe its time to give up or find what the cause is. this was my last cycle till pct but idk if i can last much longer....
 
thanks for the replys guys. ill get some armidex srraigjt away. should i go armidrx or aromisan this time?
should i get caber to? or is liquidex enuf? if i get.my e2 under control via liquidex from ar r is caber or prami neccesary?

any reason why im lerthGic to? thinking its from bad sleep but any other probable causes?

e2?
prolactin?

or does deca in general make u lerthagic N feel shite lol

ffs happening again every time i got to 2-3rd werk of cycle feel a bit shitty and dony enjoy anything
FUCK is it all in my head or what? i came off last cycle of 750test and 600dexa cos in 3rd week felt shit 2-3weeks later was feeling so good. now back on and 2nd week in im lyong here in bed and just feel blank. maybe its time to give up or find what the cause is. this was my last cycle till post cycle therapy (pct) but idk if i can last much longer....

austinite?

Hi Toco,

Yes, you need caber or better yet, prami (my preference). Dose this at 0.25mg every day for 5 days. If you feel good, increase it to 0.5mg. Only take this before bed time. Make sure you are sleepy and you will fall asleep for sure. Liquidex is needed but you also need Prami.

E2 fixed with Liquidex, Prolactin fixed with Prami.

Lack of sleep can certainly attribute to lethargy. Common causes are dehydration, insomnia and sometimes thyroid related. So you need to make sure you drink lots of water, get some sleep (use sleep aids if needed) and next blood work get a full thyroid panel.

First time deca users have complained about lethargy but generally that goes away after a few weeks.

Are you shooting B12 yet?
 
Hi Toco,

Yes, you need caber or better yet, prami (my preference). Dose this at 0.25mg every day for 5 days. If you feel good, increase it to 0.5mg. Only take this before bed time. Make sure you are sleepy and you will fall asleep for sure. Liquidex is needed but you also need Prami.

E2 fixed with Liquidex, Prolactin fixed with Prami.

Lack of sleep can certainly attribute to lethargy. Common causes are dehydration, insomnia and sometimes thyroid related. So you need to make sure you drink lots of water, get some sleep (use sleep aids if needed) and next blood work get a full thyroid panel.

First time deca users have complained about lethargy but generally that goes away after a few weeks.

Are you shooting B12 yet?

Hi Mate. Sorry for the late reply. Just got on the PC now. Ive gotta ask mate. I was 3 weeks into a 750 sus and 600deca cycle and started feeling BAD.Mentally, not really physically, I know it was all in my head but I was feeling mentally stressed out, felt blank, had no real emotions, didn't even get butterflys when the girlfriend goes in to kiss me which I normally did. I didn't really enjoy things I had motivation to go out because I wanted to but at the same time felt no real connection. This was 3 weeks into that cycle. I stopped and went off all injections for 4 weeks and FUCK started feeling heaps better. I was so happy I coulda licked the shit off peoples toilets hahaha. Not really but I was very happy. Felt good to be around the missus and I was so much more talkative etc. So I decided to give cycling another shot which is the current one im on now. Im not feeling as bad but I started getting the same symptoms today. Im certainly more snappy and agrivated but people are getting on my nerves a little bit ATM. I feel OK now I just did my shot of sus/deca/npp and yes I started on B12 today I did 1 ml of Hydroxocobalamin which is what you get at the chemist. Neo-B12 Injection 1000mcg/mL x 3 Amps - Chemist Warehouse this is the one I use.

I was taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on that cycle to when on 750mg of test I was on 0.25mg eod of liquidex. I felt mentally stressed out, guilty for being horny all the time. Just shitty in general. And for some reason I was thinking it was my girlfriend who im stressed over, WHAT im stressed over about her im not sure, because I plan on marrying her, shes absolutely gorgeous. And as soon as I got off cycle for 4 weeks everything was quite good. Im also thinking its the mental guilt for being on gear for so long. Or perhaps my body needed a break. I had bloodwork done not long before that and everything came back in range besides LH and fsh there were below 1. Prolactin was on the high side at 341 and the ending range was 370 so barely in range. But I don't get why after stopping all injections for a few weeks I felt quite good. Sex drive was still there altho started dying just before I jumped back on about 2 and a half weeks ago. (this current cycle). Im honestly tempted to come off but ive got a family holiday coming up in September and I wana stay on till then, but its honestly not worth feeling mentally stressed/crap/guilty etc and risk losing my missus for a few KG of muscle. Im still trying to point my finger and what the cause could be. I mean is it the gear causing me to feel this way, well obv but is it all in my head or is something out of whack, E2? PROLACTIN? Thyroid? RBC, hemacrit. Im trying on a cpap machine on Friday as I have a bit of sleep apnea from my study I recently did so ill see how that goes.
 
those 4 weeks I was off I remember telling my girlfriend, I feel really good, not a worry in the world. Now I feel like im mentaly stressing over something and I don't know what. I know the gear is causing it and I think its time to come off, or the very least see if I can hold off till September. I feel like my mind is constantly thinking and stressing and its making me feel not good, cause the time I was off I was relaxed, enjoyed talking to people etc. Im about to say fuck it and throw this cycle out. But ill give it a few more days. Its strange tho because after research and research ive found no one with the same problems as this, everyone always feels great on cycle and never wanna come off, I was the other way around I felt great when I was off for a month.

what do u think the problem is? I honestly don't think BW will show anything because I know this is gear related because as I keep repeating lol sorry, that when I was off I felt good. happy/talkating even the gf goes your really talkative and I remember telling her I just feel happy and good. Now im feeling a bit dull lol.
 
those 4 weeks I was off I remember telling my girlfriend, I feel really good, not a worry in the world. Now I feel like im mentaly stressing over something and I don't know what. I know the gear is causing it and I think its time to come off, or the very least see if I can hold off till September. I feel like my mind is constantly thinking and stressing and its making me feel not good, cause the time I was off I was relaxed, enjoyed talking to people etc. Im about to say fuck it and throw this cycle out. But ill give it a few more days. Its strange tho because after research and research ive found no one with the same problems as this, everyone always feels great on cycle and never wanna come off, I was the other way around I felt great when I was off for a month.


what do u think the problem is? I honestly don't think BW will show anything because I know this is gear related because as I keep repeating lol sorry, that when I was off I felt good. happy/talkating even the gf goes your really talkative and I remember telling her I just feel happy and good. Now im feeling a bit dull lol.

You mentioned BW won't show anything. Have you decided to get it checked, or are you just going to let it go? I think it would be a good look into what's possibly going on with you. At the very least, it could rule some things out. Honestly bro, gear may just not be for you. You mentioned feeling guilty for being on gear, and even feeling guilty for being horny all the time. Why guilty for having a high libido?

Forget what everyone else's experience has been on gear. I think you may have elevated E2, and i also believe you've got stressors attached to this guilt thing you mentioned. Don't force it bro.
 
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