Sub-q or IM injections of test c

10/4, that would also be fine. According to Crisler's guides - his starting dose is .25 EOD.

For me, .25eod is still crashing my E2 pretty hard. Have a feeling that at 100mg a week, I won't be needing an AI.

-Jim

I do E3D shots and notice it dips mine pretty good.
I think your body adjusts over time and the a.i. could be weened especially if u are dividing up your shots.
You need to always monitor.
Remember you are on exo T and that in itself lowers SHBG...
adding the a.i. lowers SHBG even more causing more T to be bio available. Thats why some ppl feel side effects.
 
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I do E3D shots and notice it dips mine pretty good.
I think your body adjusts over time and the a.i. could be weened especially if u are dividing up your shots.
You need to always monitor.
Remember you are on exo T and that in itself lowers SHBG...
adding the a.i. lowers SHBG even more causing more T to be bio available. Thats why some ppl feel side effects.

I have not taken arimidex since Monday, and that was a .5mg dose. I took a .5mg dose the day before that too. I'm feeling better as far as fatigue. My azz is not dragging. Still little to no morning wood. When should I start taking it again? I will pin 50mg of test c tonight. My last shot was on Monday morning.
 
.5 mg of Adex at a time man?
What are you doing?
Your only on 50 mg T shots a couple times a week.
Is this on top of the clomid you are on?
 
.5 mg of Adex at a time man?
What are you doing?
Your only on 50 mg T shots a couple times a week.
Is this on top of the clomid you are on?


Yes. This is the protocol this doctor has me on. Why, does clomid cause more E2 as well? I'm listening to you guys from now on. This guy doesn't seem like he knows what hes talking about after hearing what you guys say. One good thing about him is, he'll more or less go along with what I say.
 
Told you he knew F all.
I've never seen experienced TRT docs use clomid with Test.
Keep in mind some docs don't care if you are dialing in with a.i. and protocol. They mostly prescribe a general dosing of the drug. It's up to you to determine the right dose for yoh.
My doc told me to take 1 mg a week too.....
No way....
.5 mg a week is plenty.
 
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Yes. This is the protocol this doctor has me on. Why, does clomid cause more E2 as well? I'm listening to you guys from now on. This guy doesn't seem like he knows what hes talking about after hearing what you guys say. One good thing about him is, he'll more or less go along with what I say.

Clomid, when used without exogenous testosterone, increases natural testosterone in males with secondary hypogonadism. This increase in testosterone results in increased aromatization of the testosterone into estradiol.

---> Higher Test usually results in higher estradiol.
 
Told you he knew F all.
I've never seen experienced TRT docs use clomid with Test.
Keep in mind some docs don't care if you are dialing in with a.i. and protocol. They mostly prescribe a general dosing of the drug. It's up to you to determine the right dose for yoh.
My doc told me to take 1 mg a week too.....
No way....
.5 mg a week is plenty.

Yep. I'll have to determine the right dose for me.
 
Clomid, when used without exogenous testosterone, increases natural testosterone in males with secondary hypogonadism. This increase in testosterone results in increased aromatization of the testosterone into estradiol.

---> Higher Test usually results in higher estradiol.

Ok, I see.

I do suspect my E2 is low. Probably not as low as it was, because I am not feeling as tired. How long do think it will take to rebound with taking 100mg of test c, and 25mg of clomid 3 times a week? Just want to get some idea of how long I should stay off the arimidex.
 
I did melanotin 2 sub-q, and it didn't do anything. Next time I did it IM, and wow! So I am convinced, I absorb an injection better the IM method!

Could you give a little more detail about your melanotan experience? That is usually done sub-q, but you got more results with IM? How so?
 
Could you give a little more detail about your melanotan experience? That is usually done sub-q, but you got more results with IM? How so?

I shot 15 iu IM and had great results, boners for 4 hours. But today I did the same dose the same way, and not quite the same results. I wonder if E2 has something to do with it.

Wow, I shot it at 3pm, and it's just starting to really kick in. I have had a woody for the last 20 minutes. Why the long delay this time? I have no clue.

It just won't stop. Some serious wood.
 
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Well I laid off the arimidex for 5 days now. Pretty sure like you guys have said that I crashed my E2. As matter of fact I have always been aggressive with arimidex since being on TRT, so it's probably been on low side for a while.

Here's my question, if I'm only doing 100mg of test c a week, and I don't convert a lot of T to E2, how am I going to get E2 up. Should I increase my T dose? I still have androgel, could also do a pump a day. Or just leave it alone.
 
Oh, I have to add, it feels great not feeling so tired the last few days. I even got an erection this morning without taking anything. :jump:
 
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