Sustanon Help

[Ythrashin]

Yet you guys forget about the 3 other esters. Wow

 

[jimbo79]

That's fine and I agree with u that u will still get "enough" out of only pinning 2x a week. I didn't say anything against that. I simply stated that it's best to run Sus EOD. Not 1 person can disagree on that.

That being said if someone asks "how often should I pin Sus" which was the OP's question in the title. The answer should be EOD. Now if ur a 2x a week kind of guy simply state that EOD is best but u'll still get decent gains out of 2x a week injections.

I understand what everyones argue is...and the fact is everyone has there own views and facts...everyone is different. It's prolly safe to say this topic has had issues in many forums...and will till were extinct. I'm going to run it the way I said, I will log my progress, and in the future if I run sust again..perhaps I will try eod!? I could always add prop if I seem I could benefit more from it aswell... After I run the shit both ways I will let you know what was best for Me.....peace.

 

[juced_porkchop]

X2 !!!



If u don't pin EOD, u won't get the effect of the Prop.

says who?

2X a week is fine if you want to pin eod then get just prop then.
iv doen both and no diff cept more shots and more chance of infection.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Yet you guys forget about the 3 other esters. Wow

not me there there so i pinn LESS or i would just get the fukign prop to begin with lol

 

[MotorIHead]

Yet you guys forget about the 3 other esters. Wow

No one has forgot about the others esters. It's ok to pin a long ester more frequent than it's half life. It's NOT ok to pin a short ester less frequent than it's half life. Simple as that, if u disagree on that then ignorance is taking over I guess....

says who?

It's profile says so....

2X a week is fine if you want to pin eod then get just prop then.
iv doen both and no diff cept more shots and more chance of infection.

I agree with u that if ur thinking about running Sus just run Prop instead. BUT on the other hand if ur not going to pin Sus EOD then I would just run test E or C instead.

not me there there so i pinn LESS or i would just get the fukign prop to begin with lol

I agree with u on that, but that's not answering the OP's question.

 

[Ythrashin]

Hey motorhead....what are the half-lives and what would the active-life be of all 4 esters if you injected 1ml of sust?

Maybe by learning about ALL the esters half-lives and learn about active-lives you'll become enlightened.

 

[MotorIHead]

Hey motorhead....what are the half-lives and what would the active-life be of all 4 esters if you injected 1ml of sust?

Maybe by learning about ALL the esters half-lives and learn about active-lives you'll become enlightened.

From what I read their are different opinions on this I guess ? I am not a scientist so I can't really answer ur question as I have not tested them myself, and the answers on the net don't agree with themselves. All I can do is tell u what I've read over the net. This is what I read for half-lives. As for active life that is dose dependent so I can't answer that without knowing the dosage of the gear.

Site #1

Propionate 1 day
Phenylpropionate 1-2 days
Isocaproate 4-5 days
Decanoate 7-8 days

Site #2

Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Decanoate 15 days

Site #3

Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 3 days
Isocaproate 4 days
Decanoate 7 days

Anything else u need to know ?

Oh I did these 2 calculations, u tell me which u would rather see in ur levels in ur blood on cycle. 1st is 2x a week injections, 2nd is EOD injections. Both are about 500mg a week of Sus, this cycle is for 12 weeks. Both cycles are using 6000mg over 12 weeks. Both are using this make up of Sus, and the half life of site #3.

testosterone isocaproate 60mg
testosterone decanoate 100mg
testosterone propionate 30 mg
testosterone phenylpropionate 60m

These #'s also include a 5% waste factor, because we dont live in a perfect world, and there will always be a little bit of loss when you inject.

This is 2x a week

Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
250mg(1) 1 238 mg
2 199 mg
3 168 mg
250mg(1) 4 381 mg
5 319 mg
6 270 mg
7 229 mg
250mg(1) 8 433 mg
9 364 mg
10 307 mg
250mg(1) 11 498 mg
12 418 mg
13 353 mg
14 300 mg
250mg(1) 15 494 mg
16 415 mg
17 350 mg
250mg(1) 18 535 mg
19 449 mg
20 379 mg
21 322 mg
250mg(1) 22 513 mg
23 430 mg
24 364 mg
250mg(1) 25 546 mg
26 459 mg
27 387 mg
28 329 mg
250mg(1) 29 519 mg
30 435 mg
31 368 mg
250mg(1) 32 550 mg
33 462 mg
34 390 mg
35 331 mg
250mg(1) 36 520 mg
37 437 mg
38 369 mg
250mg(1) 39 551 mg
40 462 mg
41 391 mg
42 332 mg
250mg(1) 43 521 mg
44 437 mg
45 369 mg
250mg(1) 46 551 mg
47 463 mg
48 391 mg
49 332 mg
250mg(1) 50 521 mg
51 437 mg
52 369 mg
250mg(1) 53 551 mg
54 463 mg
55 391 mg
56 332 mg
250mg(1) 57 521 mg
58 437 mg
59 369 mg
250mg(1) 60 551 mg
61 463 mg
62 391 mg
63 332 mg
250mg(1) 64 521 mg
65 437 mg
66 370 mg
250mg(1) 67 551 mg
68 463 mg
69 391 mg
70 332 mg
250mg(1) 71 521 mg
72 437 mg
73 370 mg
250mg(1) 74 551 mg
75 463 mg
76 391 mg
77 332 mg
250mg(1) 78 521 mg
79 437 mg
80 370 mg
250mg(1) 81 551 mg
82 463 mg
83 391 mg
84 332 mg


This is EOD

Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
143mg(1) 1 136 mg
2 114 mg
143mg(1) 3 232 mg
4 195 mg
143mg(1) 5 300 mg
6 252 mg
143mg(1) 7 349 mg
8 293 mg
143mg(1) 9 383 mg
10 322 mg
143mg(1) 11 408 mg
12 342 mg
143mg(1) 13 425 mg
14 357 mg
143mg(1) 15 437 mg
16 367 mg
143mg(1) 17 446 mg
18 374 mg
143mg(1) 19 452 mg
20 379 mg
143mg(1) 21 456 mg
22 383 mg
143mg(1) 23 459 mg
24 386 mg
143mg(1) 25 462 mg
26 387 mg
143mg(1) 27 463 mg
28 389 mg
143mg(1) 29 464 mg
30 390 mg
143mg(1) 31 465 mg
32 390 mg
143mg(1) 33 466 mg
34 391 mg
143mg(1) 35 466 mg
36 391 mg
143mg(1) 37 466 mg
38 391 mg
143mg(1) 39 466 mg
40 392 mg
143mg(1) 41 467 mg
42 392 mg
143mg(1) 43 467 mg
44 392 mg
143mg(1) 45 467 mg
46 392 mg
143mg(1) 47 467 mg
48 392 mg
143mg(1) 49 467 mg
50 392 mg
143mg(1) 51 467 mg
52 392 mg
143mg(1) 53 467 mg
54 392 mg
143mg(1) 55 467 mg
56 392 mg
143mg(1) 57 467 mg
58 392 mg
143mg(1) 59 467 mg
60 392 mg
143mg(1) 61 467 mg
62 392 mg
143mg(1) 63 467 mg
64 392 mg
143mg(1) 65 467 mg
66 392 mg
143mg(1) 67 467 mg
68 392 mg
143mg(1) 69 467 mg
70 392 mg
143mg(1) 71 467 mg
72 392 mg
143mg(1) 73 467 mg
74 392 mg
143mg(1) 75 467 mg
76 392 mg
143mg(1) 77 467 mg
78 392 mg
143mg(1) 79 467 mg
80 392 mg
143mg(1) 81 467 mg
82 392 mg
143mg(1) 83 467 mg
84 392 mg

If u don't want the most effect out of the gear and u don't want ur blood levels more stable by all means inject Sus 2x a week. If u want the most out of Sus and want more stable blood levels inject EOD. Simple as that. I'm pretty much done arguing b/c I've proved my point many times to u. Now it just seems like ur trying to insult my intelligence by asking my other questions.