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Test and prop cut/strength log
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Bulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
Well you pushed it harder then I would have recommended but i'm glad you came out the other side without further damage. And you PR'd? That's crazy man. Keep up the good work, looking forward to giving the sohp a go tomorrow.
Thank ya!
Me too... I'll be pissed if you're anywhere near my strength levels on them lol
I've been working on them for so longBulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
Stay away from the dnp bro, you are a fit guy and there are other milder enhancers that can get you where you want. Why take the risk? People have been laid up in the ER for doses around 500mg's, which is about double the recommendation. That's potent man, an eca stack, clen t3 and keto stack would get you where you need. Or just do a cut stack with tren and masteron.
I don't know alot about it so maybe i'm ignorant about it but damn, i've heard too many horror stories to mess around with it when there are safer and still effective alternatives.
I don't know alot about it so maybe i'm ignorant about it but damn, i've heard too many horror stories to mess around with it when there are safer and still effective alternatives.
BEASTMUSCLE
BEAST!
Yeah stay away from the dnp
Did heavy back work and it gave me no pain even when my arm was fully outstretched. Heavy trap work too... they were a cause of discomfort last I tried em on Saturday, but no such issues today. The healing continues...
As it stands, here's the gameplan for Thursday (next scheduled press workout). For one, I really want to hit 245 on overheads, for however many reps it will allow me (even as low as 2-3)... I haven't hit that in over 2 years (my 3RM back then) and this would be one solid goal that I could check off the list for this cycle. From there on out, I'll just stick with that weight and work on repping it out, as long as that takes.
Other than that... I plan on gauging my tolerance for DB inc, BB inc, and bench. Gonna do some stretching, lotta warmups, lotta rest in between sets, and possibly lower volume depending on how I react. Otherwise, I'll try to work around it as best I can. If I can't do DB inclines I'll just use the DBs for more shoulder presses. Change up bars, grips, exercises, etc, just find ways to keep pressing while working around the pain. And more tri work.
Although I never log them on here, I realize that the weighted dips I had been doing have been more contributory to the stretchy feeling on the injured portion of my pec than any other exercise. So its probably time to cut em out for the time being.
Other than that, I'm gonna continue dosing the peps and hope that they aid in my recovery. On a side note, I just want to add that sub-q quad pep injections are awesome. My tummy was starting to get purple bruises from the frequency of all the shots I've been taking... my legs on the other hand dont bruise nearly as often, and if they do, they're hidden from public sight! I don't want to go to the beach with welts on my tummy, fuck that
As it stands, here's the gameplan for Thursday (next scheduled press workout). For one, I really want to hit 245 on overheads, for however many reps it will allow me (even as low as 2-3)... I haven't hit that in over 2 years (my 3RM back then) and this would be one solid goal that I could check off the list for this cycle. From there on out, I'll just stick with that weight and work on repping it out, as long as that takes.
Other than that... I plan on gauging my tolerance for DB inc, BB inc, and bench. Gonna do some stretching, lotta warmups, lotta rest in between sets, and possibly lower volume depending on how I react. Otherwise, I'll try to work around it as best I can. If I can't do DB inclines I'll just use the DBs for more shoulder presses. Change up bars, grips, exercises, etc, just find ways to keep pressing while working around the pain. And more tri work.
Although I never log them on here, I realize that the weighted dips I had been doing have been more contributory to the stretchy feeling on the injured portion of my pec than any other exercise. So its probably time to cut em out for the time being.
Other than that, I'm gonna continue dosing the peps and hope that they aid in my recovery. On a side note, I just want to add that sub-q quad pep injections are awesome. My tummy was starting to get purple bruises from the frequency of all the shots I've been taking... my legs on the other hand dont bruise nearly as often, and if they do, they're hidden from public sight! I don't want to go to the beach with welts on my tummy, fuck that
Bulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
Sounds like a solid plan, I agree, stay away from the dips.
Short workout. Squatted 555x2 and did abs. Glad I decided to finally try an EOD routine cos it's WORKING!.. I continue to make progress despite doing low reps to failure every second day. Def good to know for my future cycling.*We'll see how long I continue this but I may stick with it regardless of how my pec does.
My squat has gone from 495x1 to 555x2 this cycle. The trick will be holding onto gains in PCT... I'll probably decrease volume a bit and add a lot of chemical support. I'll post my protocol as time nears (2 wks), but please feel free to offer input.
Noticing leg musculature that def wasn't there before. *Inflammation in pec is subsiding... I'm hoping that the time off I'm taking will allow my bench to be even stronger when I return but we'll see
There really hasn't been any slowdown in progress since starting tren, even though I'm running what I consider to be a lowish dose... awesome. Can't say the same for test+var.
My squat has gone from 495x1 to 555x2 this cycle. The trick will be holding onto gains in PCT... I'll probably decrease volume a bit and add a lot of chemical support. I'll post my protocol as time nears (2 wks), but please feel free to offer input.
Noticing leg musculature that def wasn't there before. *Inflammation in pec is subsiding... I'm hoping that the time off I'm taking will allow my bench to be even stronger when I return but we'll see
There really hasn't been any slowdown in progress since starting tren, even though I'm running what I consider to be a lowish dose... awesome. Can't say the same for test+var.
Bulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
Glad to see the EOD protocol is working. I'm not certain that we can continue it during pct but I will give it a go and see if I can maintain my strength gains with it. Hard to imagine that the pimples would come on now so it's most likely from shaving as you suggest. Can you reach your entire back? I certainly can't so I have my girl do it for me.
Gorgeous huh? We got a pretty boy on our hands but you can pull it off with strength like that.
Gorgeous huh? We got a pretty boy on our hands but you can pull it off with strength like that.
Yeah I'm definitely not doing it during post cycle therapy (pct), just an on cycle thing for me to take advantage of the bolstered recovery... I'd only do such a routine on low volume too.
No way I can do my own back haha... I need to look into waxing, I hear its the way to go
No way I can do my own back haha... I need to look into waxing, I hear its the way to go
Bulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
Yeah, i'm going to try EOD and if it gets too much to handle then i'll scale it back to my usual routine. I just don't want to lose any strength, and this is the routine that gets me at peak levels so i'm going to go with it until the wheels come off as they say.
Never tried waxing but I will do anything that will lengthen the time in-between shaving. I'm doing it twice a week right now and it's a hassle.
Never tried waxing but I will do anything that will lengthen the time in-between shaving. I'm doing it twice a week right now and it's a hassle.
OHP 245 x 3
DB Shoulder Press 120x4 (first time on em in years.. I like em!!)
Worked my way up to 110 on incline DB and just ended up replacing em with shoulder presses instead. The change may or may not be permanent, we shall see. Worked my way up to an easy 275x1 on a football bar on inclines and decided to stop there. I will try increasing the reps slowly and see how my pec reacts to em. Didn't try any regular flat benching.
Did some reverse grip... these really don't give me any pec problems (ironically I feel a weird stretch in my shoulder instead though) , so maybe I can do them for a while and go hard on em. Also did ALOT of tris... like a month's work, lol.
Toying with the idea of cutting out some press volume and training my presses EOD as well to get my OHP way up whilst on cycle, since natty OH gains are hard and slow for me. Right now only squats are EOD, everything else is E3D. I'll do some thinking and see if its worth it.
Started drinking a lot of Powerade Zero for electrolyte balance, hopefully this helps my cramps out. Bloat has been bothersome, I've been hitting up the sauna to shed excess weight every now and then, it's the only consistent thing that helps. Still have pec inflammation but slightly better... I think when it fully subsides it will be an indication that I am healed or at least close to it. I have a feeling that my pec will feel unnatural for a while though... when I tore my hammy few years back it took under 2 weeks to heal to 100%, but it continued to feel strange for a long time after.
DB Shoulder Press 120x4 (first time on em in years.. I like em!!)
Worked my way up to 110 on incline DB and just ended up replacing em with shoulder presses instead. The change may or may not be permanent, we shall see. Worked my way up to an easy 275x1 on a football bar on inclines and decided to stop there. I will try increasing the reps slowly and see how my pec reacts to em. Didn't try any regular flat benching.
Did some reverse grip... these really don't give me any pec problems (ironically I feel a weird stretch in my shoulder instead though) , so maybe I can do them for a while and go hard on em. Also did ALOT of tris... like a month's work, lol.
Toying with the idea of cutting out some press volume and training my presses EOD as well to get my OHP way up whilst on cycle, since natty OH gains are hard and slow for me. Right now only squats are EOD, everything else is E3D. I'll do some thinking and see if its worth it.
Started drinking a lot of Powerade Zero for electrolyte balance, hopefully this helps my cramps out. Bloat has been bothersome, I've been hitting up the sauna to shed excess weight every now and then, it's the only consistent thing that helps. Still have pec inflammation but slightly better... I think when it fully subsides it will be an indication that I am healed or at least close to it. I have a feeling that my pec will feel unnatural for a while though... when I tore my hammy few years back it took under 2 weeks to heal to 100%, but it continued to feel strange for a long time after.
Bulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
Nice! Looks like you are recovering quickly. Oh, and thanks for making me have to move up to 120 on my next dumbbell shoulder press. Jackass!
Looks great man, i'm glad you recover so fast and now you can finish this cycle in style.
Looks great man, i'm glad you recover so fast and now you can finish this cycle in style.
Bulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
Yeah, that's certainly the worst part. Grab some 80's and 60's and dropset the last set. It's killer!
Squatted 555x3, abs, calves. So do I go for 555x4 next time, or try 565 for 2?!
Since last Saturday I have squatted 4 times, each max effort sessions, and during each I have progressed. Interesting. Groin area is a bit tender though... my flexibility needs work. I've also changed up my calf training a bit: started bending my knees, I notice that helps keep tension on the backside moreso than on my shins, and also been doing em with toes pointed outward... I feel it in my outer calf head more, which is primarily the head I want to work on. Only 2 weeks of cycle left, but with these epiphanies in mind, I'd like to hit em as hard as possible for the time remaining.
After hitting up the sauna all week, I finally weighed in at sub 200... 198 to be exact. I will try my damndest to keep here these next two weeks.
Legs are getting slightly sore from all the injections (IM and subq)... next cycle around I will definitely rotate my spots more. I just stuck primarily with legs because my shoulders would always get inflamed after a shot, which took away from my shoulder definition... not something I wanted during Summer.
Since last Saturday I have squatted 4 times, each max effort sessions, and during each I have progressed. Interesting. Groin area is a bit tender though... my flexibility needs work. I've also changed up my calf training a bit: started bending my knees, I notice that helps keep tension on the backside moreso than on my shins, and also been doing em with toes pointed outward... I feel it in my outer calf head more, which is primarily the head I want to work on. Only 2 weeks of cycle left, but with these epiphanies in mind, I'd like to hit em as hard as possible for the time remaining.
After hitting up the sauna all week, I finally weighed in at sub 200... 198 to be exact. I will try my damndest to keep here these next two weeks.
Legs are getting slightly sore from all the injections (IM and subq)... next cycle around I will definitely rotate my spots more. I just stuck primarily with legs because my shoulders would always get inflamed after a shot, which took away from my shoulder definition... not something I wanted during Summer.
Also, does anyone have any experience with either of the following two things?:
- "stim" machine (? - not sure if I'm referring to it correctly, but it's that thing that uses electric shock to contract your muscles... supposed to be good for healing tears and such)
- stomach sweat belt things (to reduce subcutaneously water in that area... to get rid of some of this bloat jiggle)
- "stim" machine (? - not sure if I'm referring to it correctly, but it's that thing that uses electric shock to contract your muscles... supposed to be good for healing tears and such)
- stomach sweat belt things (to reduce subcutaneously water in that area... to get rid of some of this bloat jiggle)
Bulldog2103
Junior Bodybuilder
You know my answer, go for 565 baby! I had a minor groin pain during a squat and lunges session but it subsided by the next workout, hopefully that'll be the case here. I remember playing through a pulled groin for football, one of the toughest pains to overcome because you simply can't run on it. You can't take those long strides but it all worked out and ultimately figured out how to heal without rest, just lingered around a long time.
I change up my feet technique every calf session to work different heads but I haven't tried the bent knees approach. I'll give that a run on sunday.
Never heard of or researched those two things so I can't help out there. I never suffered any major injuries, only got the concussions. Lucky me huh?
I change up my feet technique every calf session to work different heads but I haven't tried the bent knees approach. I'll give that a run on sunday.
Never heard of or researched those two things so I can't help out there. I never suffered any major injuries, only got the concussions. Lucky me huh?
ironbutterfly
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Is this for real,not even goin to comment.you couldve found that info but instead choose to be led by the hand.
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