test cyp tren e cycle

[litew8t]

This will be my second cycle

First cycle was a straight test cyp @ 500 mg and d-bol that i jump started for the first four weeks pct was nolva clomid

now i have test cyp left and have decided to run it along with tren e

Mon / Thurs @ 500 mg test cyp and 400 mg tren e

now i def wanna throw an oral winstrol in the cycle to get that extra lean cut but im not so familiar with the compund and as im researching figured i see what people may have to say

for pct i have nolva and clomid on hand but figured because tren is such a suppressive compound i figured Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) would be safe to throw in only thing is its expensive yet money doesnt matter if it means a safer cycle.

any helpfull input would be greatly appreciated

 

[litew8t]

im sorry for the 500 mg test it would be 250 on mon and 250 on thurs
and the tren 200 mg with the mon shot and 200 with the thurs shot thus test @ 500mg a week and 400 mg tren e

 

[litew8t]

23 hits and no one has anything to input ?

 

[cyto33]

i'll be first. that much tren in on shot is going to hurt real bad. this is some thing that most of us will not use until a 7th 10th or higher cycle.
look up an thread called my tren nightmare. 200mg in one shot is 4X the amount that should be taken in one shot. also Tren E it will take a while to come out of your system so you will have a long standing nightmare if the tren dont serve you well.

 

[cyto33]

here this is from a real good friend of mine.




My tren nightmare ...revisited....

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I see a lot of newb's talkin bout " I want to try tren...I want to try tren.. !!
I was competitve on a state/collegiate level in the late 80 s and early in 1990...powerliftin and bodybuilding.
I used test and dbol..and deca a couple times. Probably 10 real cycles for 6 various shows/meets.
I laid off the sauce for 12 years as my job was a clear cut conflict of interests to be juiciin.
Upon returnin to the coast I slowly regained interest and for the last 3.5 years did a few mild cycles..test/eq....some short d bol runs. As I was talkin with a very large friend of mine he walked me out to his car and gave me some tren..A . "You ll love it.."
I went home and read like 2 minutes of intel on it, drew up 200 mgs..ran it and had to take a knee..coughed so hard my ass hurt. My vision blurred, my mouth filed with metal and I was light headed. I went to the gym. Felt OK...I guess.
The next 3 nights got steadily worse and my 'friend" indicated it was normal.
I ran 200 more..yes..200. This time my cough was so pronounced I went fetal and the metal taste so pronounced..I was gaggin...'FUCK ME..this is not cool."
That night ranked right up there with a bad lsd trip..sweats,paranoia,nightmares, shakes..I thought i was dying or at least going mental.
The next mornin after a sleepless night..it was worse..I called out sick from work and reached out to 2 guy s I knew were good to go..Biggin..and a cool cat named Kane. They eased my racing, totally fucked up state of mind and said I would be fine..in time.
Luckily I had a 3 day weekend ahead of me and some test suspension about.
After 72 hours I was better and the suspension and support from the above kept me out of going to the E. R...(I ve had 11 procedures done from bullet hole s patched, blunt trauma s, an eye being put back in etc.) I don t go to the hospital unless in an ambulance or medi-vac..But I was that scared.
I ll admit I was a dumbfuck for the doses, lack of research and trusting gym gossip to guide my cycle.
My opinion of what happened was that I;
1) Took 4 time s to much...then did it again.
2) Am not one to tolerate it...maybe one day at a reasonable dose..but I ain t competitive and am a bit old to do a compound as strong as this one...IMO.
3) Listened to a gym guru fuck...instead of logging time researching it...and doing lil bits.
4) Some tolerate it..some dont.
A lot of you do tren successfully ; this ain t meant for you .
I encourage all newbies who have limited cycles to stick with the basic s ..test in all it s forms..deca..npp,eq, orals ..for reasonable runs..to get several..if not many cycles under your belt before moving up to this level.
Take it from a guy whose soon 46..with patience and diligence you can achieve what u want with good old test and other tried and trusted compounds..
And if your still hard core..in 2-3 years..after 6,7,8 cycles..go slow..lest you have your own tren nightmare.

 

[bigcac13]

Nice post, sounds like you wen't threw hell bro.

But it was prly because you took 4x the normal dose.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

The worst thing that I had from Tren E was the libido loss and believe me that sux...lol

 

[stevonov]

THe guy in the nightmare used tren a. if your gonna do tren do 75mg tren acetate eod and when it starts kicking in if you cant take sides it will go away faster than if you take tren e and cant take the sides.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

what are your stats lightweight?

 

[Rougen123]

i'll be first. that much tren in on shot is going to hurt real bad. this is some thing that most of us will not use until a 7th 10th or higher cycle.
look up an thread called my tren nightmare. 200mg in one shot is 4X the amount that should be taken in one shot. also Tren E it will take a while to come out of your system so you will have a long standing nightmare if the tren dont serve you well.

THe guy in the nightmare used tren a. if your gonna do tren do 75mg tren acetate eod and when it starts kicking in if you cant take sides it will go away faster than if you take tren e and cant take the sides.

Yeah bro 400mg of Tren e and week is very normal.... Your thinking tren a. I also remember reading a post, only a couple days ago; regarding tren and its injection pain. Something was said to the effect that tren is one of, if not the easiest compound to suspend, and tren should NOT hurt like other compounds would.

 

[juced_porkchop]

No fuking tren!!!

 

[3J]

you shouldn't be running tren on your second cycle.. tren is harsh and an advanced compound that should be used by those who have a 4-5 cycles under their belt...

jmo....

 

[Thunderascherub]

you shouldn't be running tren on your second cycle.. tren is harsh and an advanced compound that should be used by those who have a 4-5 cycles under their belt...

jmo....

^^ This!!!!

And when you do run Tren 400mgs is WAY to much. 200-250 week for yoru first tren cycle is plenty.

 

[3J]

^^ This!!!!

And when you do run Tren 400mgs is WAY to much. 200-250 week for yoru first tren cycle is plenty.

well, u wanna get deeper into it, you shouldn't be running tren e, u should be running tren a.. cuz if you have sides come up and you need to stop, your stuck with that crap in your system for over a week...

with tren a, its a coupla day... in and out quickly...


tren is the most powerful injectable steroid in the mainstream right now readily available..

im on it right now.. it fucks with u in a way that no other compound will.. tread lightly OP

 

[litew8t]

yes i am aware of the sides and the fact that tren a would be alot better to start off with intitally to find out my bodys tolerance

yet i was unare that this was four times the normal amount so 1/2 a cc would be sufficient? per shot along with the test i want to limit times i have to shoot which is why i chose the Tren e

So now with this known ... what alternatives to tren i want to cut this time

also post cycle therapy (pct)

hcg a neccesary ?
on hand nolva clomid and i want to throw winstrol into the picture suggested dosages ?

 

[3J]

i'd drop the test for some var.. 40mg ed for 8 weeks

 

[litew8t]

from what im hearing tren is not the way to go but i do not wanna be taking a compound that is desinged to bulk i will obviously be taking some form of test but i wanna limit the water retention and fat gain i want a dry lean look as opposed to the d-bol test cycle that i went on i was happy with the gains and have managed to keep almost everything that i had gained two months off cycle.

anvar i havent looked at the compound and ive done my research on clen but want soemthing that will gain muscle as opposed to something that will soley burn fat and if not taken right make me shrink down

i do understand that it is both catabolic to fat and slightly anabolic to muscle but def looking for something to rip up as the summer comes.

then someone suggested a Winstrol (winny) only cycle but looking at the compound it seems it would be more detrimental than beneficial.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if all you wanna do is cut-why dont you just use some prop and restrict your diet? do lots of cardio? you cant do both at the same time-if you do you wont be happy with the gains

 

[Thunderascherub]

well, u wanna get deeper into it, you shouldn't be running tren e, u should be running tren a.. cuz if you have sides come up and you need to stop, your stuck with that crap in your system for over a week...

with tren a, its a coupla day... in and out quickly...


tren is the most powerful injectable steroid in the mainstream right now readily available..

im on it right now.. it fucks with u in a way that no other compound will.. tread lightly OP

Very true and great correction.

For cutting 25mg-50mg of Anavar (var) or Winstrol (winny) is good. Tren is my fav. But let me tell you its Dancing with the devil in a red dress in the moonlight.