test e vs test 400 please help.
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halfwit
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Test 400 is probably enanthate or cypionate dosed (or a mix) at 400mg/mL. Enanthate is often dosed at 200-250mg/mL. The difference is how much volume needed (oil total) to reach desired dosages.
I must warn you, anything above 300mg/mL is often pretty painful as there's more hormone and benzyl alcohol involved in dissolving it and keeping it from crashing.
I must warn you, anything above 300mg/mL is often pretty painful as there's more hormone and benzyl alcohol involved in dissolving it and keeping it from crashing.
carverelli
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Test E is most likely 250mg/ml
Test 400 is 400 mg/ml (more concentrated) but it may be a mixture of different esters. If you want 500 mg/week of test E then you'll need 2ml
If you're using test400 you'd only need 500/400= 1.25 ml per week
Some test 400 is 200mg cyp and 200 mg enanthate so you'd still pin e3.5 day. If there's a prop ester in the test400 eod pin is recommended for stable blood levels.
Test 400 is 400 mg/ml (more concentrated) but it may be a mixture of different esters. If you want 500 mg/week of test E then you'll need 2ml
If you're using test400 you'd only need 500/400= 1.25 ml per week
Some test 400 is 200mg cyp and 200 mg enanthate so you'd still pin e3.5 day. If there's a prop ester in the test400 eod pin is recommended for stable blood levels.
bigben66
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It depends on how the Test 400 is split... you should always go by the Test ester with the majority...
ie: If it's 200mg Cyp, 150mg Enanthate and 50mg Prop, you should still pin every 3.5 days....
I can confirm that Test400 does give a mighty PIP, but on the flip side, if you're getting Test 400 at the same price you get Test Enanthate, it's a no brainer, get the 400, it'll last you longer.
I've only had great results on Test 400!
Oh, and if you are combining compounds into one injection, Test 400 = less space in the syringe
ie: If it's 200mg Cyp, 150mg Enanthate and 50mg Prop, you should still pin every 3.5 days....
I can confirm that Test400 does give a mighty PIP, but on the flip side, if you're getting Test 400 at the same price you get Test Enanthate, it's a no brainer, get the 400, it'll last you longer.
I've only had great results on Test 400!
Oh, and if you are combining compounds into one injection, Test 400 = less space in the syringe
Megatron28
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I would recommend staying away from blends. It makes pinning, PCT, etc. more difficult to manage. Get something with a single ester.
PrinceDianabol
Well-known member
It depends on the ester, and what dose you want. I'm going to assume it's enanthate or cyp - in which case twice weekly injections is best (every 3.5days, or monday morning + thursday night.)
If your looking at 500mg weekly, you'd inject 0.625ml per injection, for a total of 1.25ml per week.
Megatron28
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You need to find out what the mix of esters is. If it is C+E they basically have the same half life so that is easy. If they are a mix of short and long esters it makes it more complicated. Find out what the mix is and we can advise you.
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carverelli
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The test400 from OP was pretty smooth for me at least, very little pip
The test400 from OP was pretty smooth for me at least, very little pip
I'm not being mean but if you have to ask this, you don't know much about what your doing. There's steroid profiles at the top of the page and stickys everywhere. If you don't want to read up and learn then your going to potentially get yourself into a big mess...
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Sounds like Sust with extra esters. Holy shit that is a lot of esters. Just pin EOD to keep serum levels stable. There is no difference between the half life of prop and phenyl prop....not sure why both are in there. EOD for sure though
PrinceDianabol
Well-known member
Yeah, thats a shit tonne of esters. Never understood why people like blends - seems a bit silly to me.
You might wanna pick up some slin pins, or 1ml barrels with a 25 or 27g needle for that then OP... you'd be injecting about 0.3ml EoD to achieve stable levels. What a stupid blend.
Roush
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It's prob bunk gear, who would go to the trouble of producing that, sounds like a waste of time to me... Op, just stick to the basics.
If u want a tried and true blend, sustanon
PrinceDianabol
Well-known member
Agreed. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to brew lol. I'd just stick with enanthate/cyp... or prop if you want a short ester. Blends don't make sense to me at all, even standard sus.
halfwit
I like turtles.
Interesting. I have been close to trying OP for funsies, may have to give it a shot. Har Har, pun intended.
Blends this complex are usually done this way to remain in solution with as little BA /BB as possible. This may actually not be as terribly painful, if legit.
To determine pinning frequency, you can ignore the smallest esters if you like and look at the fact that 75% is long estered and can be pinned as such. If you REALLY want to maximize the esters, EOD would be better.
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tury694
Pale Gorilla
Doubt it's bunk. Probably just prop and test e blend. No ugl mixes that much shit lol. I think it is much easier to find real test than fake. Now underdosed is a different story.
