TEST is TEST is TEST is TEST

[crazyfmike]

I keep reading over and over guys posting about Test E, Test P, Test C, Sust, and even TNE and I deduct many of these guys don't understand TEST is TEST.

The ester attached to the hormone provided a sustained release (not as sustained as you think or WAY more than you'd like{deconate}it to be).

I have noticed ZERO difference in "water retention using Prop vs Enan". Why many guys like Prop(me)are the blood levels are steady with ED and possibly EOD injections.

Prop guys like me just like to pin??? Imagine that scenario. Typically the guy that sticks that often are serious MFer's and therefor run leaner by lifestyle NOT ESTER!

I am running E right now and just as hard and veiny as when I was on Prop only, hence I am running TEST ONLY!

IMO if your running long ester gear and swear you're holding more water it may, just may be your diet and entire psychology is leaning toward the easy way and the Taco Bell Drive Thru.

TEST is TEST !!!!

 

[josh30013]

Test is Test but do you take in consideration of there Half life?
SUSTON 15-18 DAYS
TEST CYP 8-12 DAYS
TEST E 10 DAYS
TEST PROP 4 DAYS
TEST SUSPENSION 1 Days

Half life is how long the steroid stays active in you body. I mean would you gear to stay active for one day or 14? Test is Test yes. But the half lifes are ver crucial to me. Thats me thoy. And every one is diffrent.

 

[crazyfmike]

Test is Test but do you take in consideration of there Half life?
SUSTON 15-18 DAYS
TEST CYP 8-12 DAYS
TEST E 10 DAYS
TEST PROP 4 DAYS
TEST SUSPENSION 1 Days

Half life is how long the steroid stays active in you body. I mean would you gear to stay active for one day or 14? Test is Test yes. But the half lifes are ver crucial to me. Thats me thoy. And every one is diffrent.

The hormone is TESTOSTERONE!

 

[crazyfmike]

Test is Test but do you take in consideration of there Half life?
SUSTON 15-18 DAYS
TEST CYP 8-12 DAYS
TEST E 10 DAYS
TEST PROP 4 DAYS
TEST SUSPENSION 1 Days

Half life is how long the steroid stays active in you body. I mean would you gear to stay active for one day or 14? Test is Test yes. But the half lifes are ver crucial to me. Thats me thoy. And every one is diffrent.

The only difference is injection spacing. TEST C is not another compound from TEST P.

 

[josh30013]

Like i said test is test i agreed with that but every one brings something diffrent to the table...

 

[josh30013]

The only difference is injection spacing. TEST C is not another compound from TEST P.

True and agreed

 

[crazyfmike]

Like i said test is test i agreed with that but every one brings something diffrent to the table...

Too many guys come off like Test C is as different as Nandrolone compared to Test P.

I am in a situation to pin E, C or P as a day in the life a "tester".

It ain't all that......lol

 

[josh30013]

Too many guys come off like Test C is as different as Nandrolone compared to Test P.

I am in a situation to pin E, C or P as a day in the life a "tester".

It ain't all that......lol

Lmfao you said in a life of "Tester". ^^^Not playing no games!

 

[Georgia]

You're such a grumpy old bastard.

That simply rant does clear a lot up though. For me any way. Testosterone is testosterone. Only difference is how long it stays in your system. The shorter the half life the quicker it starts to work right?...therefore the more expensive.

 

[josh30013]

You're such a grumpy old bastard.

That simply rant does clear a lot up though. For me any way. Testosterone is testosterone. Only difference is how long it stays in your system. The shorter the half life the quicker it starts to work right?...therefore the more expensive.

A Half life is how long the steroid remains active in your body. For example, half life of Deca is around 14 days, which means that 14 days from your last shot of 200mg, your blood levels of Deca will contain 100mg of the steroid. Another 14 days from then, i.e. 28 days from last dose, your blood levels will contain 50mg of the steroid. This amount then keeps halving every 14 days.

 

[weights=life]

can someone explain why people who think the prop ester will hold less water when compared to long ester like enth. If water comes from the aromatsing of test to estrogen that draws the water in, why would a ester that takes longer to aromatise "hold" more water than on that is converting faster?

 

[crazyfmike]

You're such a grumpy old bastard.

That simply rant does clear a lot up though. For me any way. Testosterone is testosterone. Only difference is how long it stays in your system. The shorter the half life the quicker it starts to work right?...therefore the more expensive.

With Prop at around 30 and E around 50 it doesn't matter. I remember paying over 200 for E. You guys have it made with these price wars.......if money is a concern gear might not be the best thing for a guy.

Used to be a saying "you can tell who the most money buy how big they are". now everyone and their dog is ON.

 

[crazyfmike]

You're such a grumpy old bastard.

Grumpy is all I know.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i can agree that test is test, but i have to disagree that there is 0 difference. for me, the sharper rise and drops with prop allow me to "feel" the test more at a lower dose. then there is ester weight to consider.

then some say that since your body produces 2 different kinds of esterase (this is responsible for cleaving the T) if said person has more of one than the other, their body may be friendlier towards test e than say test c, depending on which esterase they produce more of.

this is rare but it does happen, and could be the cause of someone holding more water, if they dont have the esterase to cleave the hormone, they may get a build up over time, IE with long esters is would show more, cause the build up would have more of an effect.

otherwise, i agree test is test for most people.

 

[jadakiss]

Hey mike loving ur threads ! U have lots of good knowledge and great theory on aas, keep postin brother. I'm followin u on ur threads.

 

[crazyfmike]

i can agree that test is test, but i have to disagree that there is 0 difference. for me, the sharper rise and drops with prop allow me to "feel" the test more at a lower dose. then there is ester weight to consider.

then some say that since your body produces 2 different kinds of esterase (this is responsible for cleaving the T) if said person has more of one than the other, their body may be friendlier towards test e than say test c, depending on which esterase they produce more of.

this is rare but it does happen, and could be the cause of someone holding more water, if they dont have the esterase to cleave the hormone, they may get a build up over time, IE with long esters is would show more, cause the build up would have more of an effect.

otherwise, i agree test is test for most people.

I have guy swears he breaks out from Test E so always wants Test C. He keeps coming back so I keep Test C just for him.

I have bad food allergies and breakout easily but esters......not a problem. I suppose there are some fine line exceptions to everything on the planet.

Test is still Test which really is my point here. Diet has WAY more to do with water retention than esters.

Thanks for your .02. I love this shit!

 

[crazyfmike]

Hey mike loving ur threads ! U have lots of good knowledge and great theory on aas, keep postin brother. I'm followin u on ur threads.

Thanks man. PM me anytime

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

I keep reading over and over guys posting about Test E, Test P, Test C, Sust, and even TNE and I deduct many of these guys don't understand TEST is TEST.

The ester attached to the hormone provided a sustained release (not as sustained as you think or WAY more than you'd like{deconate}it to be).

I have noticed ZERO difference in "water retention using Prop vs Enan". Why many guys like Prop(me)are the blood levels are steady with ED and possibly EOD injections.

Prop guys like me just like to pin??? Imagine that scenario. Typically the guy that sticks that often are serious MFer's and therefor run leaner by lifestyle NOT ESTER!

I am running E right now and just as hard and veiny as when I was on Prop only, hence I am running TEST ONLY!

IMO if your running long ester gear and swear you're holding more water it may, just may be your diet and entire psychology is leaning toward the easy way and the Taco Bell Drive Thru.

TEST is TEST !!!!

I dont agree with this , it can be no difference for you but some users can seriously bloat with long ester test. It also depends on which Est Blocker or inhibitor you use

 

[BRITISH BEEF]

Grumpy is the only way on this hard road we choose my brother, i always raise a smile when the postman comes around though

 

[bigmike33]

It just simply come to the person and to me in the end test is test but they all give me diff looks. And I get worse side off of prop then say a longer ester but that me..