Test Prop + Test E + Dbol Cycle seeking advice

[bmreedd]

Most of which i've had on hand as extra so i decided to turn it into something worthwhile. Here's what my breakdown looks like:
1-4: Test p 600mg - 300Test E mg - Dbol 50mg (Test P EOD - Test E 2x)
5-16: Test 750mg
It's not complex obviously, looking to just add lean mass. Didn't want to use tren because of side effects.
What i've done is obviously use the test p as a kickstarter along with the dbol until test e kicks in. What i'm asking is through weeks 1-4, i'm at a low dose of test e, when i alternate to week 5 raising the test e will my body take effect? Or will i have to wait additional time for the added mg's to kick in.
Another thing, i've read alot about Winstrol, i'm considering it to reduce water retention. I'm not in competition, would it be effective/worth it with this cycle? I'm leaning towards "no" but i want some additional opinions

 

[China_Wall]

the kickstart plan you have is just gonna mess things up, there's no way you will be able to know exactly when the test prop is leaving your body, and when the test E will begin to reach stable levels... either run test prop start to finish or run the test E start to finish... another option is to run the test E for 12 weeks, then finish with the test prop for 4 weeks

as for your question about how long it will take for the extra mg's to take effect? it's be around 4 weeks... that's why running the prop as a kickstart is not the greatest idea

 

[Teutonic]

the dbol with the test is gonna swell you my friend...gonna deal with it using an ai or just swell....I like the Michelin man but not when he s grinning at me in the mirror..eye s shut when he smiles...not the look I m after..

winny hurts me and while some love it to use it to shed water, the amount unchecked aromatization from test is not gonna happen as with an ai will.
I ve aborted winny twice as it makes me ache by removing my joint liguid elbows and knee s mainly; I believe as a drying agent it is mainly for huge m f ers trying to squeeze the last bit of water under the skin out pre contest.

That stack is gonna need wringing out like a full mop head ( ai ) not a car detail rag ( winny)..

But you will get strong as heck and noticeably larger very quickly. Some say dbol gain s stay as does the strength...I m not saying this is not possible...just never did w me. I pissed a lot of my size away..but that s me.

Jus saying bro...

pct is squared away ???

 

[bmreedd]

issue is i've already started the test p so opting out isnt really an option. doing some research i've seen alot of people off test p as a potential kickstart but i probably should of factored in the unstable levels in the conversion of weeks. i'm an amateur more or less experimenting, learning as i go. I've done a good amount of research but want to stay as basic as possible factoring my age(24) & or knowledge. I'm really just testing the waters and seeing what i'm able to do with my physique, whether i'm capable of competing or modeling. Winny in my eyes is now a no-go. It's just not worth the joint damage, especially since i feel some aches with the AI even when i trial at a minimum 12.5 ED. My pct is basic along with the cycle. I have 5000iu's of HCG and bunch of nolva. From what i've read, alot of mixed reviews of nolva/clomid. Some say mix, some say avoid. I've decided to run nolva alone. HCG will run for 5 weeks at the end of cycle. So last two weeks i'm gonna run 500iu's 2x per week until nolva starts.

 

[kaname]

....I like the Michelin man but not when he s grinning at me in the mirror..eye s shut when he smiles...not the look I m after..

^ This deserved a quote bump.

 

[3J]

what are your current stats?

 

[bmreedd]

24
5'10
200lbs roughly
12-15% BF
Genetically speaking I come from a small framed family.
Weight before 8 years of training was around 135. 4 years consisting of conditioning / bullshitting with friends for soccer. Other 4 consisted of learning , dieting, and proper training.

 

[3J]

have you cycled before??

 

[bmreedd]

Once with sustanon

 

[Teutonic]

5 ft 10 200

I am 5 11 206

So we would be very similar in proportion standing next to each other as I too am double digit bdfat...

Post a piccie

 

[bmreedd]

Good possibility. I don't want my picture on a public forum for discretion honestly. But I'll pm if you'd really like to see. Idk what your intentions are?if you're critiquing me, I'm open to it. If you a trying to be douschbag save your time

 

[bmreedd]

My tattoos are unique, so I don't want to post it publically