Test & Tren Discussion. Pros and cons of running either compound higher or lower

[mdella89]

Hey guys. looking to get a discussion going from people who have run Test and Tren cycles.

What pros and cons have people found by running the tren higher than the test and how were your results.

Also what pros and cons have people found by running the Test higher

and where do you feel the most optimum dose and length of cycle is for results/sides

 

[Zeek]

In my case tren does mess with my ability to maintain a good erection. So when I was using tren I would always run my test considerably higher to avoid this particular side effect.

On the other hand tren actually has the opposite effect on many guys.

 

[mdella89]

good post zeek. good to get someones oppinion. i hear alot about test and tren competing for the same receptors so its good to know how different doses affect different people

 

[sboond]

yes i am also waiting to hear the pros and cons.

Currently on my first cycle and have started on the test (2 weeks so far) but wondering if I should add in tren (which was previously suggested after 3-4weeks). On my other post there is suggestion to run test on its own as first cycle though. Tren apparently takes away your sex drive where as Test replaces the sex drive (or adds to your sex drive with no tren)

But looking to hear what others think though. so yes pros and cons please

 

[mdella89]

yes i am also waiting to hear the pros and cons.

Currently on my first cycle and have started on the test (2 weeks so far) but wondering if I should add in tren (which was previously suggested after 3-4weeks). On my other post there is suggestion to run test on its own as first cycle though. Tren apparently takes away your sex drive where as Test replaces the sex drive (or adds to your sex drive with no tren)

But looking to hear what others think though. so yes pros and cons please

Just run the test for your first cycle. look at tren later on. i think it will take away your sex drive depending on the dosages of test that you run (obviously need to be low)

hoping some more experienced users can chip in here

 

[MeatHead96]

yes i am also waiting to hear the pros and cons.

Currently on my first cycle and have started on the test (2 weeks so far) but wondering if I should add in tren (which was previously suggested after 3-4weeks). On my other post there is suggestion to run test on its own as first cycle though. Tren apparently takes away your sex drive where as Test replaces the sex drive (or adds to your sex drive with no tren)

But looking to hear what others think though. so yes pros and cons please

Way too early for tren. Tren is the strongest steroid there is and it can come with a lot of harsh side effects. Only should be used by more advanced users imo.

 

[mdella89]

bump

 

[China_Wall]

i kind of middle of the road for this topic, I like to run tren and test at about the same... for example beginning in feb I will be running test 700/tren 700/mast 350 for 100 days... this combo has worked well for me in the past and know it will again

 

[China_Wall]

but this topic will have varying views as it all depends on personal goals... I know guys that compete at a pretty high level and 4-6 weeks out from a contest some of them don't run any test at all, just tren/mast/winny and some halo... but for them their goal is not to be able to "get it up", it's to look as dry, hard and crisp as possible come contest day

 

[hard2gain]

You DO NOT need to be running tren on your first cycle bro!!! Please trust me when I say this. You will not need it at all. As long as your diet and training are in check, your first cycle is gonna be amazing! My fist cycle was the best damn thing that ever happened to me. The gains were crazy and I managed to keep almost all of them.

Now if you would like advice for later cycles in the future I will answer the question to the best of my ability. Personally I like to run tren at a lower dose at the end of my cycle to "harden" everything up. This just makes for a nice cap off to a good cycle.

The reason people have been running tren higher than test is because they both compete for the same receptors. Tren is the much stronger drug so you want that getting to as many of those receptors. With a smaller amount of test in the body it will leave the user with an extremely tight and ripped look.

Test should be ran around a replacement dose like 250mg/wk. People prefer different amounts of tren. I personally think some of these fuckers are crazy running 800 or more mg of tren. If you've never touched tren before 400 will be fine. Shit I personally would never go over 550 myself. Higher dose = higher side effects and when you're talking about a drug like tren high side effects can fuck shit up my friend.

 

[mdella89]

great info hardtogain. good recommendation for avoiding tren on a first cycle. it really should be avoided for any newcomer.

as i have not used tren, 450 should be a good place to look you think?

or would an even dose of 525 of both prop and tren be better as you get an even amount of both competing for the same recpetors?

 

[mdella89]

i kind of middle of the road for this topic, I like to run tren and test at about the same... for example beginning in feb I will be running test 700/tren 700/mast 350 for 100 days... this combo has worked well for me in the past and know it will again

China that sounds like a awesome cycle to me. you should have a log in the cycle forum and detail your progress. im sure there would be many members here eager to see your results from that

 

[hard2gain]

Thats just it you don't want them competing because you want the tren to win hands down. Tren is 5X more powerful than test with no estro conversion. And left over test that doesn't bind to the receptors will start to convert to estrogen. Personally I say 250 test and 400 tren will give any first time tren user phenomenal results.

 

[cokezero]

How often do you inject tren? I'm looking to try the tren test cycle for my next one. And is test e good to run at 250 mg with the tren?

 

[mdella89]

How often do you inject tren? I'm looking to try the tren test cycle for my next one. And is test e good to run at 250 mg with the tren?

eth is 2 x week and ace is EOD or ED

Anyone else run test low and tre high with good results. would be good to hear from some first hand experience here.

does anyone know how much gear our receptors can take?

 

[darkside06]

I've only ran Tren once, it was at the same as test. Ran both Test prop and Tren ae at 100mg EOD for 10 weeks and saw amazing results! I'll be running another cycle like this soon but this time will run Tren at a higher dose.

 

[FFChiz]

Tren is definitely a force of nature to say the least and absolutely should not be ran if you are not experienced with AAS or ready for the sides. I am currently on my week of Test Prop 75mg/ Tren Ace 100mg EOD 10 wk cycle and so far so good. I'm running tren higher than Test and I'm loving it! My libido is awesome and my wife hates me, lol. In case I do develop more serious sides (prolactin related) I have all my ancillaries like my Aromasin, Prami, and full PCT ready just in case. The only sides I have encountered is high body temp, night sweats, and insomnia so far. In the gym I feel like I can lift sun up to sun down.

But all in all, Tren is king for a reason..

 

[branman2012]

Tren you dont mess with! but when you dip into it when your ready.. your gonna love it!

I find having my test abit higher helps my anxiety out sometimes, people say the lower the test the less sides the higher the test less sides, best bet is to just pick a dose you can deal with and try it

5th week of test e 500mgs tren e 400mgs

 

[mdella89]

Seems the general concensis here is to run the tren higher. considering they both compete for the same receptors and tren is the more powerful compound, this makes sense.

Do people find they need to run a longer post cycle therapy (pct) when running a tren cycle. or is a standard 4 week nolva clomid therapy sufficient?

 

[darkside06]

Seems the general concensis here is to run the tren higher. considering they both compete for the same receptors and tren is the more powerful compound, this makes sense.

Do people find they need to run a longer post cycle therapy (pct) when running a tren cycle. or is a standard 4 week nolva clomid therapy sufficient?

I did the standard 4 week post cycle therapy (pct) when i ran Tren, but I also ran my Test 2 wks longer than Tren.