testosterone C want to switch from 200mg to 400mg per week

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I'm very new to any of this but have followed this site for some time now. Due to low testosterone my doc started me on injections (done at home) of 100mg @ per week total injected 200mg per week just four months ago. It brought my level from low 200's up to 1,500 (he didn't check free testosterone-said he doesn't bother with that). In the four months I have been in for 3 blood test- so he's watching everything closely- also has me injecting HCG weekly and something called Amarzole (sp?) once a week. Of course I was stunned to see my testosterone lever (4 days after most recent shot) come in so high-having had the typical issues with low testosterone and a primary care doc wanting to prescribe sleeping pills, anti depressants, you name it- as if she gets a commission for writing a prescription- needless to say I found another doc- never bothered with that stuff- so the "TRT" I guess it's called- seemed to be working and I am seeing gains at the gym as well... this totally turned my life around. Last week I asked the doc about going for more if possible- he joked that he wouldn't prescribe steroids (like Decca, Anavar, DBol, etc.,) but would allow me to increase the testosterone amount if I wanted to see how I did- of course I'll go in for more blood work throughout this experience. So my question here- not so much if you think I should do this or not- (cause I want to try it out) would increasing my injection of 100gm@ 2 times per week (total 200mg) to 200mg@ 2 times per week (total injected 400mg per week) give me more strength in the gym, help with gains, etc., he will also make adjustments to the HCG and other stuff for the possible sides- as noted, in my blood work- there has been no evidence of any sides- everything seems find- so I am thankful for that- realizing doubling my dose per week could change that- but I'm sure he'll monitor things closely- -repeating- will going from 200mg per week to 400mg per week (split into two injections) help me at the gym? Thanks everyone for your time- and appreciate anyones input-
 
what where your test levels when your doc started you on 100mg of test per week?
please stay away from the idiot doc who wants to prescribe antidepressants for your depression.
try contacting IMT here and see what that doc has to advice to you. good luck bro!
 
Of course going from 200 to 400 is going to cause a step change in your gym performance, and muscle gain. There is a sticky that shows the gains in muscle vs various test dosages.

I'm surprised your doc is on board with this, but if that's the case then roll with it. Just adjust your AI up and you'll do great.
 
As tank stated........definitely will improve strength in the gym. Great that your doc is on board. Good luck and keep us posted
 
Thanks appleton111 - Actually the TRT doc has me on 100mg twice a week (total 200mg injected per week) when I first had blood work done (rejecting my primary care doc wanting to prescribe antidepressants and sleeping aids, etc.,) the TRT doc said my testosterone was in the high 200's and considered it extremely low for my age (I'm 25).. so he prescribed the 200mg (split into two shots per week) as well as HCH and Anastrozole 1mg per week in the 4 months I have been on the 200mg of test C per week had has done 3 blood panels- last week - adjusting my injection day so that I'd have 6 days before the blood draw from the last shot (his suggestion) the test level was 1500 which was amazing to me- as I started off with high 200's.... so I am kinda wanting to try injecting 400mg (split into two shots per week) to see if I can put on more muscle, etc., he was ok with it but just advised I needed to have the HCG and Anastrozole possibly increased- but would do more blood work to make sure things looked ok- do you think going from 200 to 400mg of test per week will make any difference in the gym. ? This has been my basic question in my original post... thanks!
 
Thanks guys- so appreciate the insight- when I left my primary care doc (part of the typical medical system- had me me take a bunch of test- physical, etc., etc., she then wanted me to start taking antidepressants and sleeping pills, see a sleep specialist blab blab blab- it seems to be the way some docs work (what they learned in school I guess?). so I found a TRT doc who is also an avid bodybuilder himself- he has been really awesome- totally about running blood panels regularly- firmly telling me he would not endorse anything like DBol or Anavar or Decca but when he saw my testosterone come back at high 200's (originally before anything) he was on board to start me off on 200mg of test C per week (injected in two shots per week) also told me I could either inject IM or if I preferred to do a SubQ shot twice a week- said these days the docs are learning smaller doses into fat work fine- so long as I'm not inject mega amounts at one time- so last week when my test level (blood panel report) showed everything was fine- no issues whatsoever- and my test was now at 1,500. - he gave me an additional bottle of 10Ml of Test C and said if I was interested in trying 400mg per week- he'd sign off on it- so long as I was ok with increasing the HCG and Anastrozole and promising to have blood panels done regularly- so I thought - great- I just wasn't sure if the change from 200 to 400mg per week would help me in the gym- I keep seeing on the websites that you don't really gain anything in the gym without injecting at least 500mg per week, etc., etc., and I'm talking 200 to 400mg.... so tomorrow- I'll start with the 200mg injection, then in 3.5 days (the doc had suggested two shots per week 3.5 days apart) but I'll then do another 200mg shot- so total test C will be 400mg per week- he wants me back in about 6 weeks for more blood work- any idea how high my test could go ? Have NO idea how this stuff works- as I said I was kinda shocked it went from high 200's to 1500. and that blood work was done 6 days after my shot- so hoping using my dose to 400mg could increase strength in the gym- any idea how high test can possibly go -where it is still useable by the body for strength and gains ? Thanks guy!
 
forgot- when you said try contacting IMT here- what is that - a user name ? How do I find IMT - agree with you regarding the antidepressant doc- it's crazy- I was raised to just blindly trust a doc- so having had several various test done (blood work, MRI, sleep test, etc., ) with my primary doc- she never would test my testosterone or amino acid or vitamin level- I basically begged her to at least run blood for that and she flat out said it wasn't necessary- as if she were preprogrammed to do things just one way- she wrote me a script for some sort of an antidepresant and sleeping pills, told me to stop drinking coffee, not be so concerned about working out- blab blab blab- after months of that crap I found a TRT doc- who happens to be a bodybuilder as well- whereas he flat out refused to endorse any type of "steroid" stuff for me- when he ran a blood panel and everything seemed fine except my testosterone leve was about 270- that's how it all started- it's been 4 months and I have never felt so awesome- mentally, sleeping better, etc., with the 200mg per week of testosterone- can't believe my primary doc would not even be bothered to order blood work for testosterone- I even offered to pay out of pocket- I'm rambling sorry- I do that a lot- :) thanks!
 
hmmm here I thought I was fairly tech savvy- I replied to the guys that responded to my question(s) last night but this morning I don't see my replies anymore-- still researching this site as there is so much content it gets a bit confusing to navigate to the many different forums, areas., etc.,
 
You are basically going to go from TRT and having high levels to living on a low steroid cycle. You are already at the very top of and test range for normal humans.

400mg we is not therapy. It's a weak cycle. Just add 100mg and run it for 10-12 weeks. Standard testoserone cycle.
 
Thanks Mycelium! So instead of 400mg per week you are saying 500mg would make a big difference ? My testosterone C is in 200mg form- so think I should go for 250mg twice a week or perhaps divide the 500mg you suggested into 3 shots @ 166mg each totaling 500mg. Not sure if injecting 250mg with the two shot per week is bad for the system to absorb or not- thanks again. .... I didn't realize 400mg is a "weak cycle". I thought a cycle was when you mixed testosterone with something like Decca or DBol, etc., rambling again I know- so think 166mg times 3 shots per week or 250mg times 2 shots per week is better ?
 
Have known several people who did exactly what your suggesting. They all noted an increase in strength, endurance, recovery.....AND SEX DRIVE. 400 is extremely high for trt. Increase anastrozole and do the bloodwork. Your doc sounds great
 
It's very VERY important to keep posting. Not posting your results and updates leads to male vaginal discharge. Especially in men like me. I cry when a thread just stops. You're part of the 'Ology community and we depend on our memebers for updates.
 
Hi guys- I started the 200mg 2 times per week (total=400mg per week) Testosterone C protocol just after these postings- I'm wondering if I need to up the HCG injections as well.... forgot to ask my doc- he had me taking HCG under the tongue once a week (think it was 250iu (mg?) can't remember and it's in my trig at home right now- but anyways- when he said I could go for 400mg of testosterone per week he also gave me this vial of special water and another vial with a powder- gave me a print out as to how to mix it (not to ever shake it, etc.,) but I forgot how much he said to inject- oh and once I mix the water with the HCG powder- I need to keep that in the brig as well.... think the HCG has something to do with keeping my boys looking "normal" or something-
 
Thanks Mycelium! The bottle is 5000iu. he gave me a script for a bunch of insulin pins and a super (for a horse it would seem) needle to draw the water from the one vial and then inject the water into the powered (freeze dried?) HCG powder- told me to inject .25 (250unit) twice a week- preferably do the shot the day before I inject the test C.... i.e. inject 250unit of HCG then next day inject 200mg of testosterone C- wait 3.5 days and do the same routine- so that I am injecting the HCG every 3.5 days and the testosterone on the following day (also at a 3.5 day schedule) How does this sound ? I read the article at the link you posted- interesting- the idea of freezing it- I was readying online that the HCG freeze dried (before mixing with the BAC water) is good in the frig for several months- so long as you haven't mixed the water into the powder. Also, once you mix the BAC water with the HCG powder- then it's only good for about a month or so.... that sound logical ? My doc- who allowed me to go from 200mg of TestC per week to 400mg of TestC per week- gave me geeze- I think 6 bottles of the HCG powder- and several vials of the BAC water- he's so cool- seriously think cause he's a bodybuilder as well- he has a more relaxed take on all this- so long as I come in for blood work regularly- when I was injecting the 200mg of Test C my low testosterone (below 300) went up to 1,500 - blood work done several days after the last shot- so I'm anxious to see where it's at with the new 400mg testosterone weekly injections- curious- do you think if it got higher than 1,500 would I feel any different - in the gym I mean ? Again, thanks for your input bro- sincerely appreciate you wisdom - same to you Latestart and tankmanbob!!
 
The first time on 400 was my first experience with test. It was test cyp and I felt like a god. I was stronger in the gym than I had ever been, confidence bordered arrogance, and sex drive was completely crazy. Not sure you will have the same experience, since you are already on the testosterone journey, but i would expect a sizable difference in every category. Please keep up the bloodwork and make sure everything is ok. Particularly estrogen and hematocrit levels. These two things are EXTREMELY important. Don't want heart or blood circulation issues. Have fun, keep testing, and keep posting. Good luck and have fun bro

To more directly answer your question.....yes, higher than normal testosterone levels bring about changes in strength and muscle mass. Careful though. Blood work bloodwork bloodwork. And donate blood if you can.
 
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It's very VERY important to keep posting. Not posting your results and updates leads to male vaginal discharge. Especially in men like me. I cry when a thread just stops. You're part of the 'Ology community and we depend on our memebers for updates.
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>>>> I like it ^^^^^ :insane: .... :nerd:
 
Hey guys- I actually lost the link to this site when I switched computers- but found it this morning- which is awesome- spent an hour trying every site name I could think of -and then found it. so I did the 400mg per week (in 2 200mg injections per week) and it was great- then I went back to "TRT mode" of 200mg twice a week (2 x 100mg per week injected) Recently I have been noticing some minor joint issues- so my awesome doc suggested he try me on 100mg of Deca injected once per week along with the "TRT mode" 200mg of Test E. The Deca is called Nandrolone Dec***8203;a***8203;n***8203;o***8203;ate but he said it should help with joint issues- When I google the stuff I am seeing that 100mg of Nandrolone Decanoate per week along with 200mg of Test E per week might be a good mix (still on the HCG too of course). Anyone have any experience with adding 100mg of Nandrolone Decanoate to 200mg of Test E injected weekly ? Wondering if I'll still keep making gains in the gym by dropping back to 200mg of Test E and only 100mg of the Nandrolone Decanoate. The doc said he is hesitant to put me on more than 100 of the Deca at this time. Curious about your thoughts. Thanks guys-
 
Yes, it's a fantastic mix. Be prepared for your joint problems to go away.

Do you have any need to ever come off roids in the future, like want to have kids?
 
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