LateStart- Curious- as this is the week I'm about to begin the 200mg of Test E (injected 100mg every 3.5 days per week) if I were to hold off on the Deca (keep is for now) and do as you suggested- how would you suggest I do the blast of Deca while on the "TrT dose" of Test E of 200mg per week ? I only have a 10mL bottle of Deca for now but doc will sell me another when I am scheduled to be finished with it- I have read that you should always inject more Test then Deca to help with side effects, etc., so if I were to go say 300-400mg of Deca per week (once I have the 2nd bottle of mL) I'd probably also need to blast more Test E right ? as it stands now- tomorrow is when I start the TrT 200mg per week of Test E.... either with Deca or not- open to suggestions- of course, my doc is doing blood work and probably expecting to see blood work based on 200mg of Test E per week and 200mg of Deca per week- which is what he set me up to do....
I totally appreciate this info as well- I need to clarify something that I kept forgetting to put into my LONG wording- after the first TrT starting at 125-150mg finally at 200mg per week my testosterone came in at just under 1,000. My doc then suggested I stop the test E for two full weeks- taking nothing the next 10 days he had me injecting HCG and taking clomid- (for 10 days after the two week break).
In conversation with him when I went in for blood work- he agreed to let me bump up to 400mg per week so long as I continued the training and had blood work and mini physicals with him- this doc has an office in my gym by the way- when I was taking the 400mg of Test E per week (split into two shots like I did before) for about 2.5 months- my testosterone went to just over 2,000 with free test just over 700. He said everything else checked out heart, blood pressure, blood work- but didn’t think I should continue on the 400mg per week of Test E long term-
That is when he said if I wanted to try going back to the 200mg of Test E per week (split into two doses- he’s big on that) we could add the Decca at 200mg per week as well- I still haven’t started that program yet- as I am kinda cleansing (word he uses) so he can take some more blood work.
Before starting the 200mg of Test E and 200mg of DECA per week (both split into two doses) I was wondering if that would be beneficial for me in the gym- guess we really don’t know till I try this new regimen out. He also spoke to me about injectable amino acids that do something with a persons natural growth hormone production- I am along with a few more guys at different ages) am part of a special program with this guy- but he’s not treating us like lab rats- I am 26 by the way, and am the youngest in the program- there is a guy in his 40’s, even on in his 70’s that is in fantastic physical condition. he monitors the diet, the exercise we do, etc., etc.,
I’m not thinking of this amino acids injection to help GH production as of yet- but am considering the 200mg of Test E and 200mg of DECA per week (split into two doses) at my session with the doc this afternoon- when I talked about this new protocol - he did advise me that I should NOT be going back to 400mg of Test E per week- that I should not be in the 2,000 range long term- it kinda echos what you are saying as well… I’m just not sure if the DECA add on will do anything since it’s only 200mg of DECA per week- but I’ll still be on the TEST E per week- one of the guys is going to try these injections- was told they are not actual GH injections- but amino acids and something else- that will stimulate a persons only GH to release- there are only so many shots I want to take per week-
That being said- he suggested something (to add to the 200mg of Test and 200mg of DECA) L-Arginine injections that I am to take about an hour before my workouts- I would stop by his office for the shot- then hit the weights at the gym directly after- he said there are studies that L-Arginine injections just before a workout will stimulate HG production-
Lots of stuff to read here I know- but you clearly know a lot (several of the guys here do) so I am soaking up any knowledge I can about all this stuff-
I do have to say- that guy who is 76 is amazing - when I spoke with him- he has worked out most of his life- and always been clean- only now he is on TrT to help with gravity he says-- he might do the amino acids injections to stimulate his own GH production. Will be interesting to see how he progresses.
Thanks all
Your doc sounds awesome so if you don't like it just save some up and run it with 400 when he bumps you back up. It'll for sure help then. Lol.
