Thinking of dropping NPP and adding var/EQ

[oliverduke]

So i have finished a gaining cycle with test trt dose and 300mg/week NPP and made some nice gains.

Im 3 weeks into dieting, have lost some weight already but I'm wondering how much water i could be holding from the NPP?

Im thinking of keeping my trt dose the same

and either dropping NPP and adding just Var, or adding EQ + VAR.

Thoughts?

 

[Roush]

Im thinking of keeping my trt dose the same and either dropping NPP and adding just Var, or adding EQ + VAR.

thats like asking if you should just have a salad for dinner .. or have an appetizer with steak and potatoes, plus desert . huge difference.

VAR is a short term low dose easy commitment . 60mg oral for 6 weeks and your done.

EQ is a long term high dose commitment . 800 mg a week for 16+ weeks.

 

[halfwit]

Just to add, water retention will be negligible if your estradiol is in check. Nandrolone doesn't bloat people up; it's water retention from estradiol being wonky.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Need to get more educated on the steroid profiles.

 

[Teutonic]

....if it were only so e z to switch drug s and boom...recomp.

Anavar s expensive and eq s slower than x mas......it s the diet and the estroid/estro water variable...to lose water drink more....really

 

[oliverduke]

thats like asking if you should just have a salad for dinner .. or have an appetizer with steak and potatoes, plus desert . huge difference.

VAR is a short term low dose easy commitment . 60mg oral for 6 weeks and your done.

EQ is a long term high dose commitment . 800 mg a week for 16+ weeks.

Yes agreed understand that part, Iv no issues with running it that length of time if it's more suited to my goals... I'm jabbing long term anyway with the trt

Just to add, water retention will be negligible if your estradiol is in check. Nandrolone doesn't bloat people up; it's water retention from estradiol being wonky.

Yeh I'm quite early in my dieting phase to gauge how much is water/fat and how much could be hormone related... I guess I'm thinking 2-3 weeks ahead of where I now!
I'm mostly concerned with muscle retention which is largely diet and training so I'm not after any tren like miracles:.. Just a compound or too with strength and hardening attributes.
Anavar may be ideal for that on top of my trt but I see a lot of EQ/MAST cutting threads which made me question
Thanks!

Need to get more educated on the steroid profiles.

Yes agreed, I'm well versed on my trt side of the spectrum but limited with other compounds.
From what I know mast p is a good finished when your already lean, no estro effects
EQ gives lean gains over a long period that are usually maintainable, but yes my knowledge is limited! Any help appreciated

....if it were only so e z to switch drug s and boom...recomp.

Anavar s expensive and eq s slower than x mas......it s the diet and the estroid/estro water variable...to lose water drink more....really

Thanks, and agreed Iv got some Anavar as I ran a cycle last year and enjoyed it!
I guess I'm just looking at that next step alongside wondering if it's time to ditch the npp.

 

[Teutonic]

I repped u; so refreshing to see an indidividual ACCEPT well intended advice and opinion s.

Good man

 

[STAUNCHED427]

EQ/Var won't build as much mass as NPP will.

NPP is a good roid tho.

 

[oliverduke]

I repped u; so refreshing to see an indidividual ACCEPT well intended advice and opinion s.

Good man

Thanks, I'm all ears at the moment as I'm just dabbing my foot in the water of ASS use mainly as I'm jabbing TRT so why not.

I have one test only cycle under my belt, enjoyed it but I'm prone to estro and DHT sides i found, running low dose T and 300mg NPP iv noticed no negative sides just gains in size and strength (possibly water weight but not lean enough to notice yet)

Im just thinking maybe its time to drop the NPP and see how much bloat it is or isn't giving me to gauge it, and then just as an extra topper to my cutting cycle var/mast or EQ (Not keen on extra hunger dieting) combo could give me the finish I'm looking for....

attatched a current leg pic for leanness but unfortunately i hold all my fat on my stomach, can't even see abs yet!

EQ/Var won't build as much mass as NPP will.

NPP is a good roid tho.

Cant say I'm looking for mass right now, looking to diet down and possibly do a show in september

 

[Roush]

EQ would help do what your looking for. BUT, it will also raise your RBC (an issue if your on TRT) and will increase your appetite (and issue if your dieting).

the other option, which goes great with TRT dose imo, does not convert to estro at all, is very 'clean' with little to no toxic sides is PRIMO. very steady solid keepable gains, and will keep you anabolic while dieting down. 600mg a week for 16+ weeks.

personally, I'm running primo for the third time, and will probably just keep cruising on it for the most part as part of my TRT regimen

* you can also get Primo with a prescription as part of your TRT if your using a 'vitality clinic' to treat you

 

[oliverduke]

thats like asking if you should just have a salad for dinner .. or have an appetizer with steak and potatoes, plus desert . huge difference.

VAR is a short term low dose easy commitment . 60mg oral for 6 weeks and your done.

EQ is a long term high dose commitment . 800 mg a week for 16+ weeks.

Just to add, water retention will be negligible if your estradiol is in check. Nandrolone doesn't bloat people up; it's water retention from estradiol being wonky.

Need to get more educated on the steroid profiles.

....if it were only so e z to switch drug s and boom...recomp.

Anavar s expensive and eq s slower than x mas......it s the diet and the estroid/estro water variable...to lose water drink more....really

EQ would help do what your looking for. BUT, it will also raise your RBC (an issue if your on TRT) and will increase your appetite (and issue if your dieting).

the other option, which goes great with TRT dose imo, does not convert to estro at all, is very 'clean' with little to no toxic sides is PRIMO. very steady solid keepable gains, and will keep you anabolic while dieting down. 600mg a week for 16+ weeks.

personally, I'm running primo for the third time, and will probably just keep cruising on it for the most part as part of my TRT regimen

* you can also get Primo with a prescription as part of your TRT if your using a 'vitality clinic' to treat you

Thanks mate agreed on the EQ concerns I give blood fairly regular but it's probably raised a bit from the npp.

I was thinking of masteron 3-400mg that goes well with trt and my goals then add Anavar last 6 weeks (got 12 weeks till possible photoshoot)

Am I right in thinking primo is simile to mast?

 

[halfwit]

Primo is totally different than masteron. I LOVE masteron because it's very androgenic, which couples nicely with cutting. Then again, I'd run that shit year-round if I could.

Be advised though, primo is not only quite expensive, but it is often faked or extremely underdosed. Roush is in a very unique situation where he KNOWS what he's getting - but of course pays a premium for such.

 

[Teutonic]

....uh hum...those are ur leg s ?

....and u be axin us fo sum 411 brah...?

I feel silly...how fat could u be... jeeeeeeeeez dude. !!!!!!

 

[oliverduke]

Primo is totally different than masteron. I LOVE masteron because it's very androgenic, which couples nicely with cutting. Then again, I'd run that shit year-round if I could.

Be advised though, primo is not only quite expensive, but it is often faked or extremely underdosed. Roush is in a very unique situation where he KNOWS what he's getting - but of course pays a premium for such.

Thanks! I think iv read enough and found a good enough source to think I'm going to go masteron for 12-16 weeks and add anavar the last 6-8 weeks (300mg and 60-80mg var)

....uh hum...those are ur leg s ?

....and u be axin us fo sum 411 brah...?

I feel silly...how fat could u be... jeeeeeeeeez dude. !!!!!!

its deceiving... i look about 15% on the midsection with about 1cm layer over my abs (some water as it fluctuates throughout the days)

but yeh legs are probably my strong point haha

 

[Teutonic]

May I ask...u a Brit ? The name, manner s, rugby legs...S Afrikaner? I m nosey...

 

[Roush]

Thanks! I think iv read enough and found a good enough source to think I'm going to go masteron for 12-16 weeks and add anavar the last 6-8 weeks (300mg and 60-80mg var)
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If you go mast e , it usually comes dosed at 200mg/ml .. I'd keep things simple and just run 400mg - 2cc. ( even though 3cc would be ideal and would still have very little sides)

 

[oliverduke]

May I ask...u a Brit ? The name, manner s, rugby legs...S Afrikaner? I m nosey...

yeh english mate! no leg dominant sports though boxed for a few years which kept me lean

If you go mast e , it usually comes dosed at 200mg/ml .. I'd keep things simple and just run 400mg - 2cc. ( even though 3cc would be ideal and would still have very little sides)

I'm running prop, i jab trt e3d so was thinking ill just do 200 on each and will average out 350 ish over the week.

cant find decent mast e anywhere!

 

[STAUNCHED427]

On second thoughts, keep the NPP and instead of EQ add in Anavar and Masteron. However you said something about a september show so EQ from now till then no doubt it will probably be long term a better choice.

 

[Megatron28]

On second thoughts, keep the NPP and instead of EQ add in Anavar and Masteron. However you said something about a september show so EQ from now till then no doubt it will probably be long term a better choice.

What rock have you been hiding under? Nice to see you back again Staunched!

 

[Teutonic]

What s 427,,,c I d on ur ride ? Good to see u..

Oliver..I knew , well sort of..u were Brit, UK or commonwealth. ( I m German born and raised turned redneck federal bobby); (ret)...been all over, no really ALL over the Queens "holdings".. plus.. and just like to guess. Ya ll are about the only one s who tolerate us anymore..

I m also a nameologist lol.

Good to meet u Sir.