Thoughts on First Cycle. DETAILED!

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I am a 28 year old guy who has been lifting now for 5 years. Height: 6'2" Weight: 208 pounds dry in the morning. Bodyfat 12%. I have tossed and turned about doing a cycle for a couple years now, and am finally deciding it is time to give it a try. Here is my plan, let me know what you guys think:


Get bloodwork drawn - Test Levels, CBC, CMP. After get results:

CYCLE:

Test Enanthate: 500mg/week. 250mg Monday, 250mg Thursday for 12 weeks

Aromasin: 12.5mg/day starting on Day 1 of cycle, stopping at 1st day of post cycle therapy (pct).

HCG: 500iu/week for 4.5 weeks leading up to post cycle therapy (pct). So last 2 weeks of cycle, then during 2.5 week break between last pin and post cycle therapy (pct).

post cycle therapy (pct):

Clomid: 50mg/day for 4 weeks starting 2.5 weeks after last pin

Nolvadex: 40mg/day for 2 weeks then 20mg/day for 2 weeks, starting 2.5 weeks after last pin

Get bloodwork drawn 3 weeks after post cycle therapy (pct) is complete.


What do you guys think? I'm still searching for a good place to get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), so obviously this won't start until I figure that out. Planning to order other stuff from RUI and Pinnacle...are those safe/legit?

Do you guys think I should have a hemoglobin/hematocrit drawn while on cycle to make sure my hematocrit is not dangerously high?

Lastly, I have obviously researched quite a bit to formulate this plan. I have come across a LOT of differentiation on HCG recommendations. Any recommendations on this would be appreciated. Thanks guys! Have enjoyed learning from you all. Look forward to reading your thoughts.

If I am out of line somewhere in here, let me know, I'd be glad to edit it.

J
 
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jdpgw7 said:
I am a 28 year old guy who has been lifting now for 5 years. Height: 6'2" Weight: 208 pounds dry in the morning. Bodyfat 12%. I have tossed and turned about doing a cycle for a couple years now, and am finally deciding it is time to give it a try. Here is my plan, let me know what you guys think:



Get bloodwork drawn - Test Levels, CBC, CMP. After get results:

CYCLE:

Test Enanthate: 500mg/week. 250mg Monday, 250mg Thursday for 12 weeks

Aromasin: 12.5mg/day starting on Day 1 of cycle, stopping at 1st day of post cycle therapy (pct).

HCG: 500iu/week for 4.5 weeks leading up to post cycle therapy (pct). So last 2 weeks of cycle, then during 2.5 week break between last pin and post cycle therapy (pct).

post cycle therapy (pct):

Clomid: 50mg/day for 4 weeks starting 2.5 weeks after last pin

Nolvadex: 40mg/day for 2 weeks then 20mg/day for 2 weeks, starting 2.5 weeks after last pin

Get bloodwork drawn 3 weeks after post cycle therapy (pct) is complete.

TOTALS (for purchasing):

Test E: 500mg x 12 weeks = 6,000mg = xxx
Aromasin: 12.5mg/day x 105 days = 1,312.5mg = xxx
HCG: 500iu/week x 4.5 weeks = 2,250iu
Clomid: 50mg/day x 28 days = 1,400mg = xxx
Nolvadex: 40mg/day x 14 days = 560mg + 20mg/day x 14 days = 280mg == 840mg = xxx

So total for cycle w/out HCG is xxx

What do you guys think? I***8217;m still searching for a good place to get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), so obviously this won't start until I figure that out. Planning to order other stuff from RUI and Pinnacle...are those safe/legit?

Do you guys think I should have a hemoglobin/hematocrit drawn while on cycle to make sure my hematocrit is not dangerously high?

Lastly, I have obviously researched quite a bit to formulate this plan. I have come across a LOT of differentiation on HCG recommendations. Any recommendations on this would be appreciated. Thanks guys! Have enjoyed learning from you all. Look forward to reading your thoughts.

If I am out of line somewhere in here, let me know, I'd be glad to edit it.

J
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Before I say anything else...GET RID OF THE PRICING!!!!!!!!
 
lol... wish i lived in the states.... i pay double what you guys pay + i get it directly from the lab too not a middle man with middle man its like triple
 
I don't even know why I had pricing on it, that's not really my concern. Just want to do the safest/most effective cycle. So thoughts on my actual cycle would be awesome. Thanks guys!
 
The cycle doesn't look that bad. I would start HCG from day one at 250iu 2x/wk for the duration of the cycle up until 4days prior to starting post cycle therapy (pct).

clomid could be run at 50/50/25/25 but what you listed is ok too.

Get blood work about 6-8wks into the cycle to monitor everything including HCT AND RBC'S and possibly expect to have a blood donation done should your levels be nearing the upper reference range limit.

I've ordered from both RUI and Pinn and am pleased with my results from both companies.

Everything else looks pretty good. It shows you've done some research beforehand, especially with the blood work. Kudos.
 
DexterMorgan said:
Pretty good stats
HCG week 1-12 (250 iu x2 week)
Donate blood on week 8 of your cycle, I would also donate pre-cycle, and post PCT

Read this thread, this will give a better idea steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/653797-my-first-cycle-planning-executing-successful-cycle.html
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Thanks for the suggestions and link. I will check it out.
 
DreDay187 said:
The cycle doesn't look that bad. I would start HCG from day one at 250iu 2x/wk for the duration of the cycle up until 4days prior to starting post cycle therapy (pct).

clomid could be run at 50/50/25/25 but what you listed is ok too.

Get blood work about 6-8wks into the cycle to monitor everything including HCT AND RBC'S and possibly expect to have a blood donation done should your levels be nearing the upper reference range limit.

I've ordered from both RUI and Pinn and am pleased with my results from both companies.

Everything else looks pretty good. It shows you've done some research beforehand, especially with the blood work. Kudos.
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Great, thanks man. I see HCG needs to be run entire cycle. I had read several people talk about desensitization if used for too long, so that was my only concern.
 
jdpgw7 said:
Great, thanks man. I see HCG needs to be run entire cycle. I had read several people talk about desensitization if used for too long, so that was my only concern.
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I believe Austinite has an extremely well written and researched HCG post. Look it up on here. Desensitization will happen after chronic use and/or high dosages. Neither of which will happen during a 12wk cycle running 250iu 2x/wk. studies have been performed HCG use for as long as 9months I believe without densensitization but don't quote me on that until I can check my source again lol.
 
Here are a couple pics I just took to show you where I'm physically at right now. Keep in mind, I am 6'2". And up to now am still 100% natty. Looking for honesty as to whether you think I need to keep going natty for a while or am I at a good point to give a cycle a run? I know how to diet to change my body, lean mass just isn't coming as easy the older I get. Thanks guys.

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if you're 6'2 i think you should be in like 200s before considering to juice, but if you really want to, go for it, you put on decent size
 
You don't really need the HCG for a Test E only cycle but it won't hurt. Take the HCG @250iu/2x week from weeks 1-12. You can also BLAST for 10 days @500iu/day leading up to the 4th day before your post cycle therapy (pct). Pinn carries HCG...
 
You've done your homework and you're good to go. You've got enough training under your belt to do this. The only tweaks I would consider is that I use 750 ius per week of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), you could consider a front load of say 2x the dose in the first week and you could finish with a short ester like prop but those are minor. I don't really recommend a blast of HCG since I think it would be overkill.
 
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