too fat for a bulk? 6-8 week cut cycle advice; help me out here..

[Charles Bronson]

had a decent run, injury put me on my ass for a few weeks.. and i got fat

I'm between 13-16% bf and wanting to run a 6 to 8 month long bulk.

i can cut quick with workouts in the boxing gym, have to gear up, completely out of my sups.. so thinking i would run tren and test ace for the next 6-8 weeks get cut down asap to bulk

buddy has some gear, bottles of tren/ test ace combo dosed at 100 mg each , i have run tren e ( under dosed shit gear) and tren a ( also garbage) so my experience with tren dosages is going to be way off and pretty limited for properly dosed gear.. been informed this stuff is legit by people who have used it.. experienced people i have no reason to doubt.

what would be the standard schedule/dosage a test ace tren ace combo for a mini cut like I'm going to run ?

.50 ed? 1 mg eod?

not trying to hulk, just a solid foundation for cutting and getting lean to prep my bulk.. thanks in advance. chuck b

 

[tbonexl]

How did u get fat and out of shape in only 3 weeks time? Why do you need to gear up to get in shape?

 

[Charles Bronson]

very helpful

 

[PrinceDianabol]

very helpful

What would be helpful is if you could answer the questions.

 

[tbonexl]

How do u expect us to help u if u can't help yourself? To be honest considering your cycle history you should know what to do with your gear...

You know something, after reading numerous threads on "how should I use tren", I've come to a conclusion. If u gotta ask what to do with tren then you haven't done enough research. I was making my own tren 15 years ago and had no trouble getting on the interweb and finding what I needed. 15 YEARS AGO!!!

 

[Transporter]

had a decent run, injury put me on my ass for a few weeks.. and i got fat

Seriously though, how did you get fat in only few weeks ?? I would suggest to get on some strict diet before you run anything...

 

[Charles Bronson]

what would be the standard schedule/dosage a test ace tren ace combo for a mini cut like I'm going to run ?

.50 ed? 1 mg eod?

so we need a back story to know the answer to that question?

ok

thanks for the interest

i put on about 3-4% bf maybe 8-10 pounds in around month of being sedentary

because I'm used to boxing AND lifting weights - so my caloric intake is pretty fucking high.

and i have been dieting constantly over the last 16 weeks on a bulk.

and i like to eat.

and I'm pretty fucking old too.

so when I'm not constantly active - my god damn metabolism seems to shift gears to a crawl

makes it slightly more difficult to adjust cals to strictly maintenance when your metabolism drops like a fucking rock when your injured and can't move

as i said earlier, I'm about 99% sure the tren I've run two times previously was way under dosed, and because this source has a good rep for quality -i was interested in what dosages would be normative for properly dosed gear on such a short run just to drop a few pounds before bulking.

im a trt guy so throwing in a low/ moderate dose of tren ace while I'm cutting isn't " gearing up " to get in shape. its a fucking kick just to help optimize a short run at a cut. whatever

so there it is.

somebody who gave a fuck answered my question in a pm.

thanks though

 

[e92]

between 13 and 16% bodyfat?? that could be like a 30 pound difference bro. the higher your bodyfat is the more estrogen sensitive you will be. you will look like a bloofy idiot. you could run more gear, and you wont look disgusting if you do happen to bloat up a bit. imagine running dbol at 16% bodyfat! yikes

so why don't you just get as lean as you can without steroids so you can do a proper bulk? your body will respond better to the hormones anyway.

i've always done that... get shredded first, then bulk. i got better results like taht personally but hey everyones body is different

 

[OnlyTheGreat]

If you are going to be boxing or doing any form of high intensity cardio, I would not recommend tren. It is not a drug to be taken lightly. You could probably lose a few pounds by just dieting naturally. If your caloric intake is high when you train, just lower it and you will lose weight. I box too and I know how fast you can lose weight by just lowering the cals. If you're going to bulk for 6-8 months after, you shouldn't have to worry about the little muscle you will lose while cutting. Slow and steady wins the race.

However, this is just advice. You're old enough to make your own decisions.

 

[Charles Bronson]

boxed on low doses of tren before. my cardio is pretty beast, id compare training on tren to wearing an 02 inhibitor mask.

if you do short intense burst, talking developing power on the bags and on pads two rounds in one out, doing three rounds in and one out in sparring - finishing your workout with grappling - your power goes through the fucking roof - and the cardio rebound is pretty fucking amazing once the tren clears your system man , like you've been doing high altitude training, you have endless stamina and retain your explosive power for weeks. your body responds to it like nothing else

 

[tbonexl]

How do you know? You said that you never ran legit tren before. Your story got a lot of holes in it bud...

 

[cybrsage]

so when I'm not constantly active - my god damn metabolism seems to shift gears to a crawl

makes it slightly more difficult to adjust cals to strictly maintenance when your metabolism drops like a fucking rock when your injured and can't move

Not really difficult, to be honest. You apparently already know this about yourself, so plan accordingly. EVERYONE likes to eat, that is why nations with a lot of excess food have a lot of fat people - it is in our nature to fatten up, just in case there is a stretch where we cannot eat. OK, the not eating part can be difficult, not trying to downplay that, but it is not difficult to create a plan for eating less.

But once you become injured, you know your metabolism drops like a rock. Knowing this, you should prepare a food plan while you are NOT injured, to put into place after an injury. Then, in the future, when you become injured again, you are ready. The biggest part about getting and staying in shape, I have learned, is understanding how YOUR body reacts to situations. Don't fight your own body, work with it.

 

[Charles Bronson]

How do you know? You said that you never ran legit tren before. Your story got a lot of holes in it bud...

right. well what other conclusion would you draw - with minimal gains and sides experienced from running what other people ( who picked up the same juice , who you trust) are telling you is under dosed gear.. a fucking low dose of tren maybe?

how is it that this turns into a pissing contest?

i ask for confirmation on a dosage/ schedule that fits my goals- to hear an opinion from someone I'm familiar with who i know has experience and won't steer me wrong or feed me some line of bullshit that hey heard / read/ or know of someone who did blah blah blah -

( yeah i don't really like to pull 'info' off the inter web too much when i can ask people i know on here)

- and it turns into a request for a fucking short story about where I'm at - now I'm being questioned AGAIN?

thanks for all your interest bud, but have the answer i needed from someone i trust already


cybersage, i hear you brother..

honestly, was at the end of a 16 week bulk..
plan was to cut while off cycle.
laid up with an injury after a bulk, yeah got a little too fat for where i wanna be - trying to make up time from an injury setting me back. ill get plugged back in with 3js as soon as I'm 100% and not too fucking fat for this next bulk, and put up some before and after pictures

 

[halfwit]

I wouldn't take it personally Charlie, there have been quite a few threads lately that I think have reduced the patience of some here. I think as long as you take care of business with regards to bp/liver and E2 - you'll be fine at moderate doses.

I wouldn't go beyond 500mg/wk, and keep that deficit no greater than 500kcals. Don't forget to get some prami/caber to keep the floppy dick fairy away.

 

[Charles Bronson]

thanks HW..

understood, i must have posted something similar to 9,000 other recent threads then..

going to roll easy, run no more than 350 a week, no reason to go nuts here.. prami already on deck..

yes sir.. going to cut nice and slow, hang onto the muscle i put on over the last 6 mos.

i was less worried about putting on bf while laid up than i was about LOSING mass.

i know how to cut. done it all my life, putting on quality weight takes forever - found out bulking wasn't as easy ( or fun ) as i thought it would be.. one reason I'm hiring 3jays, never thought id need a nutritionist to put on weight

 

[halfwit]

thanks HW..

understood, i must have posted something similar to 9,000 other recent threads then..

going to roll easy, run no more than 350 a week, no reason to go nuts here.. prami already on deck..

yes sir.. going to cut nice and slow, hang onto the muscle i put on over the last 6 mos.

i was less worried about putting on bf while laid up than i was about LOSING mass.

i know how to cut. done it all my life, putting on quality weight takes forever - found out bulking wasn't as easy ( or fun ) as i thought it would be.. one reason I'm hiring 3jays, never thought id need a nutritionist to put on weight

It's all good brother. 3J has an amazing reputation for a reason; he can definitely steer you in the right direction for sure. Happy Monday!

 

[cybrsage]

cybrsage, i hear you brother..

honestly, was at the end of a 16 week bulk..
plan was to cut while off cycle.
laid up with an injury after a bulk, yeah got a little too fat for where i wanna be - trying to make up time from an injury setting me back. ill get plugged back in with 3js as soon as I'm 100% and not too fucking fat for this next bulk, and put up some before and after pictures

That blows, perfectly BAD timing!

 

[Teutonic]

Chuck,

My man; the amount of garbage posted at times is staggering and some get short as they ( and ) are either on, coming off, on to much....an asshole ( me ), ...

For taking the time to explain I ll rep you. U pther guys; for the record chuck s my age and used to pro box overseas b4 uf c was cool. He s the real deal OK.

Did he fuck w tren in the day..or other shit that was handed to him w little or no knowledge ? If we are gonna crucify those who did let s start with ......ME.

Take HW and what I said and run with it bro

 

[tury694]

Chuck,

My man; the amount of garbage posted at times is staggering and some get short as they ( and ) are either on, coming off, on to much....an asshole ( me ), ...

For taking the time to explain I ll rep you. U pther guys; for the record chuck s my age and used to pro box overseas b4 uf c was cool. He s the real deal OK.

Did he fuck w tren in the day..or other shit that was handed to him w little or no knowledge ? If we are gonna crucify those who did let s start with ......ME.

Take HW and what I said and run with it bro

That does not look like the arm of a 50 year old in your avi. Fucking incredible how people manage to look like that at 50. Yes everyone seems angry lately because of the trolls and stupid threads.

 

[tbonexl]

Hey Charles I apologize. It true, there are a lot of threads lately with pure ignorance and laziness posted all in them. It gets difficult distinguishing between the two. I didn't mean to jump on u. I dont know anything about you and simply read what was posted. With that being said I gave my opinion. Yes it was critical and after the fact uncalled for. For all I knew at the time, you couldve been some 20 year old who knew nothing. My fault.