tren dick and other tren sides prolactin

[uberreem]

i will be taking tren ace with test, if i experience tren dick and or prolactin sides do i have to use prami or caber? or can i get by with nolvadex?

will be doing test e 600 and ten a 300 /per week (test e because i get it through trt) first tren use

i ask becuase i already have nolvadex on hand

thanks

 

[oldmusclemike]

Stats please and complete cycle, hello
Nolva is not for high prolactin and is not erectile dysfunction (limp dick)

 

[Megatron28]

Nolvadex is a SERM. It has a different function.

You need an AI from the beginning (Arimidex or Aromasin) to keep your estradiol under control. And you should use a Dopamine Agonist (prami or caber) from the beginning to manage Prolactin. Preventing problems is better than treating them later. For example, prevent gyno or have surgery to remove it... which sounds better?

Read the Sticky threads and threads other guys have started with the same questions you have. Lots more to learn!

 

[uberreem]

ok sounds good, was plannin on waiting for prolactin sides as not everyone gets em

Nolvadex is a SERM. It has a different function.

You need an AI from the beginning (Arimidex or Aromasin) to keep your estradiol under control. And you should use a Dopamine Agonist (prami or caber) from the beginning to manage Prolactin. Preventing problems is better than treating them later. For example, prevent gyno or have surgery to remove it... which sounds better?

Read the Sticky threads and threads other guys have started with the same questions you have. Lots more to learn!

 

[oldmusclemike]

ok sounds good, was plannin on waiting for prolactin sides as not everyone gets em

Are you also waiting to have a start at Gyno and then plug in an AI to fix it. Or use a maintenance and prevention technique as was just mentioned. WTF is this with you guys, "just in case" I'll have it on hand.

 

[Teutonic]

does your mother know your here ?

How old r u ?

 

[uberreem]

does your mother know your here ?

How old r u ?

wtf is that about, im in my 30's, no need to troll bro, not cool when your dealing with pples health....... anyways i have never tried tren. ive used test before and i had no issues with gyno or any other problems, my bloods were all good, i typically do 600 mgs. i did experience bloat which didnt bother me but this year i want to get more vascular and lean, thats why im trying out tren...and im not sure how i will react to it and im not sure how tren works with the test bloat

so hopefully thats enuf info for you guys

 

[uberreem]

Are you also waiting to have a start at Gyno and then plug in an AI to fix it. Or use a maintenance and prevention technique as was just mentioned. WTF is this with you guys, "just in case" I'll have it on hand.

i dont even understand your question..... no im not waiting for a start at gyno.....ive only done test only cycles and have had not issues, i didnt need to keep on hand nolva for any estro problems (i hope thats what u were asking)
i dont want to take things that i dont need, im already on prescription meds and am in my mid 30's, id like to limit the amount of drug use.

again what do you mean about having it on hand........thats what everyone says to do and thats is why i am here asking the question, the concensus seems to be to "keep on hand" until or if sides show up...........i mean do you take antibiotics everyday or would u wait until your actually sick with a virus?...... i didnt make up the term "keep on hand" so dont take it out on me

 

[Megatron28]

If you take 600mg of test a week, it WILL aromatize into estradiol. No maybes about it. Some guys notice the effects of estradiol more than others though. For comparison, most guys don't feel it when their blood pressure is high. But just because you don't feel anything doesn't mean you can leave it high. The only way to truly know where your estradiol is at is by getting blood work done. Where did your come in while running 600mg/week of test?

Are you familiar with the aromitization process and how AI's are used? Are you familiar with the role E2 plays in the HPTA?

You do not want to keep an AI "on hand". You want to use it when you begin your cycle to inhibit aromatization. High estradiol is bad for you in many ways. It did more to you than just that bloat it gave you last time.

If you are going to use AAS, you have to be prepared to use an AI, HCG and SERM's as well. Otherwise you are not cycling responsibly.

Oh... and let's do a better analogy to your Antibiotic usage. Do you prefer to get a vaccine for Polio or do you want to have some meds on hand to treat it after you contract it? Not every body says keep it "on hand".

 

[oldmusclemike]

If you take 600mg of test a week, it WILL aromatize into estradiol. No maybes about it. Some guys notice the effects of estradiol more than others though. For comparison, most guys don't feel it when their blood pressure is high. But just because you don't feel anything doesn't mean you can leave it high. The only way to truly know where your estradiol is at is by getting blood work done. Where did your come in while running 600mg/week of test?

Are you familiar with the aromitization process and how AI's are used? Are you familiar with the role E2 plays in the HPTA?

You do not want to keep an AI "on hand". You want to use it when you begin your cycle to inhibit aromatization. High estradiol is bad for you in many ways. It did more to you than just that bloat it gave you last time.

If you are going to use AAS, you have to be prepared to use an AI, HCG and SERM's as well. Otherwise you are not cycling responsibly.

Oh... and let's do a better analogy to your Antibiotic usage. Do you prefer to get a vaccine for Polio or do you want to have some meds on hand to treat it after you contract it? Not every body says keep it "on hand".

Wow right on the head. It's unfortunate for me, I just cant be patient enough to put it like that. Thank you Megatron
OP I hope you understand the Q's now. We are also trying to teach you DON"T go by what everyone says, all the time. Do your research so you can make a educated decision. Good luck

 

[oldmusclemike]

Some effects of high Estrogen in men. Baldness
Depression
Lack of appetite
Fatigue,
Lower energy
Poor memory
Low stress tolerance
Erectile dysfunction.
Risk of strokes
High blood pressure
So as you were told Test goes up E2 goes up, so we take n AI to help keep the Estrogen at a good level. I'm done hear and Good luck with the books my friend.

 

[Megatron28]

Some effects of high Estrogen in men. Baldness
Depression
Lack of appetite
Fatigue,
Lower energy
Poor memory
Low stress tolerance
Erectile dysfunction.
Risk of strokes
High blood pressure
So as you were told Test goes up E2 goes up, so we take n AI to help keep the Estrogen at a good level. I'm done hear and Good luck with the books my friend.

Edema
Prostate Cancer
Gynecomastia
Feeling Like A Whiny Bitch

 

[downunder]

If you are prepared to take AAS then may aswell do it properly and take AI and SERMS.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Edema
Prostate Cancer
Gynecomastia
Feeling Like A Whiny Bitch

Good I thought I could leave out the Gyno ??? Mood swings ... bitch Ha!!
Thanks for the added input.

 

[uberreem]

If you take 600mg of test a week, it WILL aromatize into estradiol. No maybes about it. Some guys notice the effects of estradiol more than others though. For comparison, most guys don't feel it when their blood pressure is high. But just because you don't feel anything doesn't mean you can leave it high. The only way to truly know where your estradiol is at is by getting blood work done. Where did your come in while running 600mg/week of test?

Are you familiar with the aromitization process and how AI's are used? Are you familiar with the role E2 plays in the HPTA?

You do not want to keep an AI "on hand". You want to use it when you begin your cycle to inhibit aromatization. High estradiol is bad for you in many ways. It did more to you than just that bloat it gave you last time.

If you are going to use AAS, you have to be prepared to use an AI, HCG and SERM's as well. Otherwise you are not cycling responsibly.

Oh... and let's do a better analogy to your Antibiotic usage. Do you prefer to get a vaccine for Polio or do you want to have some meds on hand to treat it after you contract it? Not every body says keep it "on hand".

thank you for laying it out as a straight shooter without ridiculing my lack of experience..... unfortunately the more you learn the more questions you have ...i also have other health issues which make me gunshy on taking meds that may not be of any real use., you have clearly outlined that i need ai/prami or caber for other than aesthetic reasons

 

[uberreem]

Wow right on the head. It's unfortunate for me, I just cant be patient enough to put it like that. Thank you Megatron
OP I hope you understand the Q's now. We are also trying to teach you DON"T go by what everyone says, all the time. Do your research so you can make a educated decision. Good luck

yes mike i totally do......u impatient bastard! jk.. thanks for the help tho, much appreciated

 

[uberreem]

so just so we are clear... start the arimadex.....no question

keep caber/prami on hand just in case?

 

[Megatron28]

so just so we are clear... start the arimadex.....no question

keep caber/prami on hand just in case?

Nope. Use both from the start.

Do you have PCT figured out? How about HCG? And do you k ow what blood work to get and where?

If you have underlying health concerns that limit you from using these medications you probably should NOT be running a cycle.

If you are set on running a cycle, you should lay the whole thing out here so we can look at it. Look at other threads so you can see how to lay it out.

 

[uberreem]

Nope. Use both from the start.

Do you have PCT figured out? How about HCG? And do you k ow what blood work to get and where?

If you have underlying health concerns that limit you from using these medications you probably should NOT be running a cycle.

If you are set on running a cycle, you should lay the whole thing out here so we can look at it. Look at other threads so you can see how to lay it out.

ok will do thanks
ya pct is figured out going to follow a variation of the powert pct by Dr Scully including hcg.....yup i have regular bloods done due to my meds, ... ive reasearched extensively the use of AAS and my condition (crohns) and they actually help out my condition (thanks for asking).......well just doin tren/test thats all....will post pct closer to the end

 

[Megatron28]

ok will do thanks
ya pct is figured out going to follow a variation of the powert pct by Dr Scully including hcg.....yup i have regular bloods done due to my meds, ... ive reasearched extensively the use of AAS and my condition (crohns) and they actually help out my condition (thanks for asking).......well just doin tren/test thats all....will post pct closer to the end

You should not use HCG during PCT. It suppresses LH. HCG should be used during your cycle.

Remember, you are anonymous. Post your full cycle and PCT here so we can see it.