tren or deca to bulk?

[mikert]

hey guys im starting my bulking cycle in about 5 weeks but im ordering the stuff on in 2 days.im doin dbol and test enanthate but wondering what is better to bulk tren or deca?,from what i have read while researhing deca aint even in the same league as tren.just to clarify its tren enathate.

 

[dialtone]

deca

 

[bigkit34]

tren is stronger but has way more sides so depends on how many cycles u have done

 

[Teutonic]

Tren is some powerful shit, dude. I aint no pro..but I ve been around. tren s sides are for fkn real. My vision blurred, wracking cough, nite sweats, dead dick, anxiety..If I could tolerate it, I would use. good luck.

 

[huuuge]

I love tren, but I thought it was used when cutting, not bulking. Deca is normally used when bulking.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Nandrolone for bulking.

 

[mikert]

my goals of this cycle is 20lbs,but im leaning towards tren becuase i rather the lean gains then being all bloated with deca.

 

[lcgator]

Deca isnt known to cause excessive bloating.

 

[mikert]

oh.i have heard that you gte alot of bload of deca.
im running dbol with it for the first 4-5 weeks and test enathate for 10,conbined with deca shouldnt the bload get really bad?

 

[lcgator]

If your running test and d-bol you really shouldnt worry about deca bloat.

 

[mikert]

tren prolly wouldnt do much to keep me lean if im using it with tren and test?

and one other question,is it possible to gain 20lbs off either cycle if traning and diet is good?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

tren prolly wouldnt do much to keep me lean if im using it with tren and test?

and one other question,is it possible to gain 20lbs off either cycle if traning and diet is good?

That question is impossible to answer. Way too many variables involved, the foremost being how close you are to your natural genetic limit.

 

[mikert]

deca/test/tren must be the ultimate cycle

 

[dialtone]

deca/test/tren must be the ultimate cycle

no, thats a terrible cycle, two 19-nors. test/deca/food is the ultimate bulk cycle.

 

[mikert]

i mean for mass.side effects dont bother me at all.like wouldnt adding tren into a deca/test cycle make you have better gains than with kickstarting it with dbol?

 

[Uruk Hai]

i mean for mass.side effects dont bother me at all.like wouldnt adding tren into a deca/test cycle make you have better gains than with kickstarting it with dbol?

uhhh better gains like in your breasts...

 

[dialtone]

you dont need 3 compounds, just eat man.

 

[mikert]

okay thanks dtone.ill stick with just deca/test ill leave the tren out since everyone talks about the sides.if i add anthing it will be just dbol for first 4 weeks.

 

[dialtone]

sounds good, it really is best to keep cycles simple and let your training and diet do the work. good luck.

 

[mikert]

i think i should be happy with dbol/deca/test
but what would you do for pct?
would nolva be good or would it be alot better to add hcg?