Tren sides --- ACE vs. E who is the victor?

[Rokkabilly]

Im sure some of you have had first hand experiences of tren's brutal sides, and some may soon be on that road, but everyone has heard of the gnarliness!!

That being said... Tren Ace, quick in quick out and hard hitting vs Tren E slow in slow out and hard hitting!!!

So... Who wins when it comes to the nearly unmatched side effects of these 2 remarkable substances!????

Let the poll begin!

-Rokka

 

[UserAt204]

Neither. They are the exact same hormone so same results, sides, etc.

Esters only determine time of release and number of weekly injects but it does not change the hormone. And even though short esters like ace are released faster, it still takes time to build to supraphysiological levels.

IMO no difference. But the things you can say is with SE your body gets more mg because less is ester weight but it's not something you would really notice.

With that said I prefer ace. Simply for a faster clearance time.

 

[Zeek]

I got nailed very hard with Insomnia on my last tren run. It was tren E so I suffered damn near 3 weeks after stopping. I could not sleep for more than 20 minutes at a time, it was a nightmare.

Tren A or tren E, right around the 6 week mark the insomnia hits me. I must be weak to that side because it happens every time.

 

[UserAt204]

Exact reason I prefer ace. I never have bad sides except bp but I know guys who ran it for years and all the sudden had insomnia and bad anxiety.

This will be a preference poll but ZEEK just confirmed my reason for ace, anything with the potential for difficult sides makes me appreciate a fast clearance. Pinning ED to me is no problem. But to be fair le will eventually build to higher levels because of that slower release when talking comparable doses.

 

[Rokkabilly]

HA!! Shitty but Funny stuff man. Maybe I should rethink my approach to tren and go with ace. I've just heard from a few pinheads that tren e is more mild with its sides... not too sure if "mild" can even be used in the same sentence as tren from what I've gathered...

 

[bippal]

I'd never mess w tren e simply because if shit gets hairy you can stop pining ace and be better much sooner than having that e hanging around fucking your sleep and dick over.

 

[Zeek]

HA!! Shitty but Funny stuff man. Maybe I should rethink my approach to tren and go with ace. I've just heard from a few pinheads that tren is more mild. ....not too sure if "mild" can even be used in the same sentence as tren from what I've gathered...

You got that right Rokka! Tren is like a fine woman that demands for you to respect her. If you fail to do so she will kick you in the nuts and lay you out! Now if you can respect and treat her right she might make you feel like a god for a while.

 

[Rokkabilly]

Hahaha, an evil bitch indeed! well then what the hell!? Is there any benefit to using tren E other than less pinning!?

Anyone with insomnia issues take ambien or the like to help sleep? I've heard Valium works like a charm but I think the liver will be under enough stress at this point!

 

[UserAt204]

Yeah you don't want to get into adding a bunch of benzos if you don't have to.

Many guys run tren E with no issue at all. I always run ace just out of preference and because years ago we had to make our own and it was tren no ester or ace and we went with ace. If it's your first time I would encourage you to go with ace so you can stop if needed but if you already have tren E then go with that.

Again it's a very individual thing and I really don't get sides from ace besides a little sweating, increased bp, and fucking shredded lol.

But I will say that after about 8-10 weeks on ace I start to feel like a garbage can. I can't explain it but just a dirty feeling so in the past I would run 8 weeks then take 4 off then run another 8. Worked well but I'm sure the gains would have been much better if I was able to stay on the extra few weeks.

 

[Zeek]

I totally relate to the garbage can feeling on tren! Your skin even starts to feel bad. Dark and smelly urine even after drinking tons of water. It's toxic to our body, simple as that. Some deal with it better than others. It will dramatically change your look though

 

[Rokkabilly]

What about dropping the dosage down to say 200mg/wk vs 400-500??

 

[Zeek]

What about dropping the dosage down to say 200mg/wk vs 400-500??

I've actually had good results from Tren A made from pellets at 50mg eod. It could have been really overdosed though so there is no telling. it was a new UGL trying to make a name for themselves years ago.

If it is accurately dosed I feel you need every bit of at least 300mg ew and with tren E I always need a little more. That could be due to the batches I had though.

It was only about 5 years ago that any of us could send off a vial of AAS and get it tested. They put a stop to that after the big busts of 07. Sources were all in check and most gear out of UGL's was coming in about 10% over dosed because they knew people would spend the 100 bucks and test them!

 

[Repo]

I've only ran tren-e and the sides were not bad at all.

I started out low and then learned from DET and User how you can benefit from running tren high - and test low.

Ended up running test at 400 and tren at 800
and the sides were no worse than when I ran tren at 400 and test at 750.

It actually seemed more smooth when I flip-floped the ratio.

I did have some night sweets - and actually woke up freezing because I was soaked with the ceiling fan on and the AC cranked up high.

I'm in florida so it wasn't because of the winter or anything.

I'll be running this cycle again soon - I still need to try Ace - except I have a lot of enanthate to last for several months.

I personally don't have a hard time sleeping on it and if I did - I would just pop a few Unisom's.

 

[0tj0]

Trying not to thread jack but just a simple question: are the sides from oral tren comparable to inj? As in could I try the oral to see if I can handle it?

 

[Rokkabilly]

As far a side counters go, is there nothing out there to conquer tren's inner devil?

No worries tj, I'd like to know that myself!!

 

[Rokkabilly]

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Ended up running test at 400 and tren at 800
and the sides were no worse than when I ran tren at 400 and test at 750.

Holy shit man! That's alotta greasy!!!
Does taking that much make THAT much of it really make much of a difference? I'm sure it probably takes years before you could take doses like that without them being devastating to your body.

More proof that tren is a wildcard when it comes to sides. I guess you just have to hope you wind up on the devils right hand when it comes time to pay

 

[branman2012]

Good read Rokka! Always love more info for tren before I start

 

[Rokkabilly]

Trying not to thread jack but just a simple question: are the sides from oral tren comparable to inj? As in could I try the oral to see if I can handle it?

Its still going to take a few weeks until sides will manifest, might as well just take the ace, do it right and hope it doesn't bite you in the ass very hard. And as mentioned above, once the sides hit they HIT! Better to be able to drop quick then let the miserableness continue. IMO( which doesn't count for much) tren ace for first go no matter what. Same concept as a "test only" first cycle... Gotta see how it hard it kicks you in the balls first before you makin it your best friend!

-Rokka

 

[Rokkabilly]

Thanks bran! Keep us posted on your experiences man!
Good luck!

 

[UserAt204]

Oral tren is nothing like injectable when it comes to sides. The only reason you should run OT is if you are paid to and have bloods every week. The guys I know who used it have bloods every week and a doc to monitor. Jaundice would and could hit from one day to the next. Stick with injectable.

Repo dove right into that but with good results. I like to see guys try tren with test higher first but if you get sides then you get them, nothing will fix it.