Trenbolone Enanthate

[lonewolf13]

Just curious and at the same time planning ahead for my third cycle - just how many of you take tren e only with test? after looking through google and some other forums i seem to see that tren e is stacked not only with a test base, but also another AAS that has roughly the same effects (hard gains) such as EQ.

How many of you do it simple with just tren e and test base and how long would a standard cycle like this last in comparison to a larger stack?

 

[Cobra Strike]

I've ran two cycles of just tren e and test. Both were 12 weeks long. The first one I didn't run a high enough dosage but the second one was amazing! I don't think you need to stack anything with tren/test...its a hell of a cycle as is.....moral of the story - tren e is fukin awsome

 

[lonewolf13]

after doing a little bit of research... it doesn't seem to be as potent as acetate (side effects inclusive). so a rough gauge of dosage would be say 600mgtest e and 400mg tren e per week for approximately 12 weeks? i was thinking of stacking tbol as well, but would that be overkill?

p/s: does tren work more as a cutting or bulking compound...? i understand that 90% of the process of cutting or bulking relies on diet and cardio, but it'd be nice to know what tren is usually used for!

 

[JWS77]

after doing a little bit of research... it doesn't seem to be as potent as acetate (side effects inclusive). so a rough gauge of dosage would be say 600mgtest e and 400mg tren e per week for approximately 12 weeks? i was thinking of stacking tbol as well, but would that be overkill?

p/s: does tren work more as a cutting or bulking compound...? i understand that 90% of the process of cutting or bulking relies on diet and cardio, but it'd be nice to know what tren is usually used for!

Pretty sure cobra will say reverse the dosages for test and tren, run tren at higher than test. Tren is good for bulk and lean mass minus the aromatizing, so no noticeable water retention/gyno if used alone. If you wanna use as bulk, like cobra said, tren e and test are good on its own. I am using it near future with test and dbol, then cut phase will be test/tren/anavar.

 

[Cobra Strike]

after doing a little bit of research... it doesn't seem to be as potent as acetate (side effects inclusive). so a rough gauge of dosage would be say 600mgtest e and 400mg tren e per week for approximately 12 weeks? i was thinking of stacking tbol as well, but would that be overkill?

p/s: does tren work more as a cutting or bulking compound...? i understand that 90% of the process of cutting or bulking relies on diet and cardio, but it'd be nice to know what tren is usually used for!

Yup....like js said....run your test at 300 and your tren at 5-600.....tren is an amazing compound. You can bulk with it by eating well over maintenance, or you can cut by eating under maintenance. As far as potency tren e isn't stronger then tren a....its that there is more eater weight in tren e so basically your getting more tren in the same amount of a as in e....thats what gives people the illusion of a being stronger.

Stacking dbol would not be over kill

 

[lonewolf13]

wow... a base at the lower dose. i'll have to get used to that haha. i'm quite worried about the combination giving me a bad case of cystic acne but i guess i'll see about it.

btw i meant tbol not dbol... but since tbol is not as hepatoxic i guess it should be fine as well.

so to conclude, i could go test e at 300 and tren at 600 for 12 weeks? or do i need to cut out tren first before the test? i know this is a lot of questions but i'm kind of confused as to how tren e should be used after coming across all the different suggestions across the net X( and this probably means 2 seperate 150mg shots of test e huh?

edit: this is my third cycle, so... is 400mg per week fine as well? or would 600 be a better bet for tren e?

 

[Cobra Strike]

wow... a base at the lower dose. i'll have to get used to that haha. i'm quite worried about the combination giving me a bad case of cystic acne but i guess i'll see about it.

btw i meant tbol not dbol... but since tbol is not as hepatoxic i guess it should be fine as well.

so to conclude, i could go test e at 300 and tren at 600 for 12 weeks? or do i need to cut out tren first before the test? i know this is a lot of questions but i'm kind of confused as to how tren e should be used after coming across all the different suggestions across the net X( and this probably means 2 seperate 150mg shots of test e huh?

edit: this is my third cycle, so... is 400mg per week fine as well? or would 600 be a better bet for tren e?

You might run into some acne but running your test lower then your tren should help minimize the sides. You could do 400 instead of 600....I ran it at 500 and was very happy. Yup 2 150mg shots Mon and thurs would work good for the test. 12 weeks is a good timeline.

And sorry bout the dbol/tbol typo...tbol will b fine

 

[joei rock]

i just finished a test /tren /dbol cycle myself .. and yes it was great ..
i did:
dbol 60mg ed week 1-5
tren e 400mg week 1-10
test e 500mg week 1-15

i had not acne issues until soon after i dropped the tren.. my next cycle will involve deca .. but next time i run tren i am definitly trying to run just TRT type test dose and a higher tren dose... tren is greattt... for bulking and cutting.. amazing strength gains even with high calorie deficiancy..

many people will advice running tren A for your first dance with tren , thats just incase you have a bad run with the sides you can clear it from your system quick. but its on you@!@!

 

[Cobra Strike]

Oh and I forgot....yes you can stop tren and test at the same time

 

[joei rock]

Oh and I forgot....yes you can stop tren and test at the same time

yeah ... wish i would have done that .. but ran out of tren anyway..

 

[lonewolf13]

alright thanks for the advice and guidance bros.
joei i've always wanted to do test p cycles with other short esters... but the idea of becoming a pin cushion this early with a lack of experience just doesn't cut it for me ):

maybe i'll do that when i actually hit a plateau haha

thanks again!

 

[joei rock]

i know what your saying ... my first cycle was EOD pining .. and as excited as i was the first few weeks .. it got old after a while..lol..

 

[djm6464]

to add to all of the above

running
tren e 500mg
test e 350mg
mast e 400mg

no loss in libido, barely any acne, no water (aromasin 25mg ed tho, started it late seeing i felt beyond dry with test/mast when i added tren after the first month, n got a gyno lump from frontlaoding the tren....live n fkn learn)
no anger, nada really.....no sweats, bp is been at its highest 120/86

gains are great, and as cobra said, really if you can handle tren, and have prepared yourself well, no point in running anything else......hell i was cutting and have been able to add back cals....never been stronger, 24/7 pump, and oddly even endurance is great......granted maybe my body is taking it well, and unless bloods are insanely bad (iv taken all measures to ensure against it), itll have been a good run

there is a great thread on here about running tren higher, even dbl your test, dig it up

one thing tho,tren e is thick stuff, doesnt disperse as smoothly as stuff you may have run previously too, and can kinda be unfriendly when pinning as opposed to say mast, eq, test ect


*****hcg 250iu eod as opposed to 500iu e3/4d works better too

 

[lonewolf13]

wow djm thanks for your input! only thing is i haven't really understood Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and i haven't used it in either of my first two cycles before ):

 

[Repo]

Just curious and at the same time planning ahead for my third cycle - just how many of you take tren e only with test? after looking through google and some other forums i seem to see that tren e is stacked not only with a test base, but also another AAS that has roughly the same effects (hard gains) such as EQ.

How many of you do it simple with just tren e and test base and how long would a standard cycle like this last in comparison to a larger stack?

I've ran test-e 750 and tren-e 400 only - with great results.

On this run I've learned it's better to run tren higher than test because they are both highly androgenic and compete for the same androgen receptor.

Now I'm running test-e 400 tren-e 800 with amazing results.

I find this does to be very smooth - much more so than when I was running test at 750 and tren at 400.

I've also added Dbol and Anavar to the cycle - I found I only need to run a low dose of Dbol 20-30 ed to smash it into hyper drive.

I've tried running a higher dose of Dbol but I don't want the hefty moon face this time of year.