Triptorelin

[UserAt204]

And even though ranges are different from place to place, the number is always the same. 25-30 is were you want to be.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Did you run any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) thru that pct

yes I ran adex at .5mg for 2 weeks and .25mg for the last 2 weeks....I did not use it with the second pct

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

but does estrogen have any effect on lh?

problem with LH and FSH is unless its piss test, the results are pretty much useless. also your DEF producing some test, otherwise your E wouldnt be that high

 

[UserAt204]

Ok. I think OAK is right because the serms/trip should increase test and your body will naturally create aromatase enzyme in reaction but when coming off serms estro stayed high and T dropped.

 

[Cobra Strike]

so you ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 10 days after last shot, then started post cycle therapy (pct)?

thats why the first set of blood were bad, post cycle therapy (pct) WAAAAAY too soon.

I think E2 is your problem, I think your T was through the roof when you were on all that shit, and now its almost like your going through a post cycle therapy (pct) from your post cycle therapy (pct) LOL, sorry to laugh bro, I think your gonna be fine, if my E was in that range, I would be on 25mg ED aromasin.

It is my opinion, unless its first cycle, to switch to prop after EVERY cycle, this makes timing so much easier

well I did the blast and then waited 4 days but now that doesnt make sense.....oh ya shit I forgot...I ran out of sus week 10 and switched to test e same dosage....fuck how could I forget that.

Ok so what if I hit the aromasin at 25mg ed...how long should I do that and then how long should I wait to get bloods checked again....


and would lower estro increase my lh signal?

sorry for all the questions but this is a massive learning experience for me...

and thanks guys for all your help...its very very appreciated and respected

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

yes lower E will stimulate LH and FSH, due to neg feedback. I would run aromasin for 10 days, wait a bit and do bloods again. I dont know if these bloods are costing you money, if not i would test on day 10 and day 17. Like i said though, dont sweat the LH and FSH readings, your balls do not make T all day long, its sporadic

Nolva also increases SHBG

 

[Cobra Strike]

yes lower E will stimulate LH and FSH, due to neg feedback. I would run aromasin for 10 days, wait a bit and do bloods again. I dont know if these bloods are costing you money, if not i would test on day 10 and day 17. Like i said though, dont sweat the LH and FSH readings, your balls do not make T all day long, its sporadic

Nolva also increases SHBG

no the bloods are free as long as I dont see the doc...which I never do. My insurance covers it.

ok I will start the aromasin tonight and in 10 days I will get tested again. I will set up the appointment tomorrow for Tues july 5th.

So my doc does not give me a complete hormone panel...I have to request what I want tested. So what do you think I should ask for? LH, FSH, TEST, E2? or just TEST and E2?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Ok. I think OAK is right because the serms/trip should increase test and your body will naturally create aromatase enzyme in reaction but when coming off serms estro stayed high and T dropped.

yup thats what happens after a cycle too.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

no the bloods are free as long as I dont see the doc...which I never do. My insurance covers it.

ok I will start the aromasin tonight and in 10 days I will get tested again. I will set up the appointment tomorrow for Tues july 5th.

So my doc does not give me a complete hormone panel...I have to request what I want tested. So what do you think I should ask for? LH, FSH, TEST, E2? or just TEST and E2?

test and E2 are enough, unless those com back good and you still feel like shit.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

just make sure its aromasin, want to avoid rebound

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

here is the proper diagnoses for hypo

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

to add-if your LH and FSH are not up to par, its very possible its because of the high E

 

[Cobra Strike]

ok great!! Im back to being excited again!!! What should I tell the doc why I am getting these tests so frequently?? Trending??

yup its aromasin!

Ya I dont think im hypo yet lol I hope not anyway!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

hypo yet lol I hope not anyway!

lol i dont think you are either, just wanted to show you how many factors go into it, i think yours is really as simple as high E, which would prolly work itself out on its own, but IMHO why not speed it up with a lil aromasin.

 

[Cobra Strike]

one more question det....

if I get tested july 5th and my levels come back good/bad then do I continue the aromasin until the next test in a week?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

no, drop it and hope to hell everything holds

 

[Cobra Strike]

no, drop it and hope to hell everything holds

haha ok....fuck if this works then I totally jacked up the triptorelin pct (which I probably did anyway) so we should edit all my bullshit out of this bad ass thread!!

and I might be lucky enough to get back on by mid july

 

[UserAt204]

Nope keep all your info here cobra because it's all experience for us. You probably over did it with all the serms but my plan was torem and trip so I guess that may not be the best plan. All part of figuring out the best method.

How's things going for S&M.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Nope keep all your info here cobra because it's all experience for us. You probably over did it with all the serms but my plan was torem and trip so I guess that may not be the best plan. All part of figuring out the best method.

How's things going for S&M.

He did an Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast and then hit the trip and ran clomid. Not sure on specifics. He finished clomid yesterday and he won't get his bloods done until after the fourth of July

 

[Misc]

Damn I was hoping you had better results Cobra..... Hope you get your T back to normal bro. Thanks for being the guinea pig tho.