Ugghhhh Endo ....TRT problems... Have to abort cycle

[copaseet]

I did my TRT test in a clinic 2 weeks prior to my TRT test via my endo... It read 806, the endo test read 1400.... Now my endo wants me to do another test in a month or hell lower my dose…

Both test were prior to this cycle, which I'm 2 weeks into...

Right now I'm doing 525mg TesT E a week, 525mg NPP & 40MG tbo 1500iu HCGl... Should I go back to TRT dose now? For 6 weeks?... I feel so fucked right now

- im pretty sure the reason is, because I use a different lab and the hospital uses a different one, Im going to use my lab (which the endo agreed on for my next text)

My question is, seeing as im 2 weeks into 500mg of test E a week, how far do I have to drop my TRT dose to get within range for my July 15th appointment?

 

[halfwit]

Take a deep breath. You have a month; come down now and you'll be fine. In fact, if he's threatening to change doses, I'd lower it by a hair more than TRT for this upcoming month.

My .02c

 

[copaseet]

Take a deep breath. You have a month; come down now and you'll be fine. In fact, if he's threatening to change doses, I'd lower it by a hair more than TRT for this upcoming month.

My .02c

So should I straight up switch to my TRT dose now? Or a little lower for the next month?

 

[halfwit]

So should I straight up switch to my TRT dose now? Or a little lower for the next month?

If it were me personally, I'd drop to just TRT dosing, and test a few days before I'm scheduled to get the draw for the doctor. If my private test comes back high, I'd reschedule and drop the dose according to how high it was. If barely over, just skip a shot and head in. If WAY over still - go a couple shots shy before getting the draw.

 

[copaseet]

What about the 2 weeks of testosterone build up at 525mg a week?

 

[halfwit]

What about the 2 weeks of testosterone build up at 525mg a week?

Yeah, it's only half way to saturation, which is a good thing in this case. You could *maybe* go two more weeks at it, but you take an unnecessary risk imo.

 

[copaseet]

Yeah, it's only half way to saturation, which is a good thing in this case. You could *maybe* go two more weeks at it, but you take an unnecessary risk imo.

Gonna straight to TRT dose for next injection... Like you said not gonna risk it at this point... Hopefully I won't have to see him for 6 months and I can restart my blast after I see him.

 

[halfwit]

Gonna straight to TRT dose for next injection... Like you said not gonna risk it at this point... Hopefully I won't have to see him for 6 months and I can restart my blast after I see him.

That's how I do it.

Luckily my doc is so busy now, I haven't been asked for a test in over a year. I'll probably mention it when I know I'm within range, so I can cover my bases in case he gets audited.

 

[copaseet]

That's how I do it.

Luckily my doc is so busy now, I haven't been asked for a test in over a year. I'll probably mention it when I know I'm within range, so I can cover my bases in case he gets audited.

So you cruise at like 200mg year round and drop to 100mg a week before a test?

 

[halfwit]

So you cruise at like 200mg year round and drop to 100mg a week before a test?

No, I'm prescribed 250mg/wk, and if I'm blasting above that, I check my levels privately a week or so prior to the draw. If it pops high, I reschedule the test and drop my dose to help it move faster.

 

[Teutonic]

This is ONE cycle ur into. I d def stop now..return to trt..get ur med file right and ask if he s gonna want a 3 rd test as u ve got plan s in a month for 2 months...planning is key to all things from from doing cycles and still getting trt to hook and crook stuff bro. U need to become an after thought for this guy. He has liability and dea admin paper to fill out who get s what and why.

My doc s lab s are so high I bitched as my insurance left me holding over 175.00...they wewre like 650.00 plus. He accepts my on line blood work now. Don t fuck up a good trt program over 1 cycle...it s another speed bump and a minor one.

 

[copaseet]

This is ONE cycle ur into. I d def stop now..return to trt..get ur med file right and ask if he s gonna want a 3 rd test as u ve got plan s in a month for 2 months...planning is key to all things from from doing cycles and still getting trt to hook and crook stuff bro. U need to become an after thought for this guy. He has liability and dea admin paper to fill out who get s what and why.

My doc s lab s are so high I bitched as my insurance left me holding over 175.00...they wewre like 650.00 plus. He accepts my on line blood work now. Don t fuck up a good trt program over 1 cycle...it s another speed bump and a minor one.

Agreed, back on TRT... Just pissed at this lab... For showing me 40% higher... Lesson learned, stick with the same lab

 

[halfape211]

Calculation of TT for comparison purposes
Being a touch anal, I personally like to see the numbers. I always use the half life of T and calculate the numbers. When I do a rough calculation for an exact four week time frame for you, I show you a touch over your usual TT numbers. Since (1) you should come in a touch lower as recommended by Halfwit and (2) you had a test come in 40% higher, I would do something a little extra to drop your numbers further. Either skip a pin, lower a pin amount, whatever.

BTW the calculation is easy and very helpful for comparison purposes.
The half life of T is about 7 to 10 days and the calculation is easy if you assume 7 days (the prev weeks injection is halved every upcoming week). To explain further you add the last 4 to 6 weeks amount of injections in this manner to find your present level: for this week add full amount of injection; last week add 1/2 the actual injection amount; the week before last week use 1/4; etc.
On paper calculate the numbers back 4 to 6 weeks from the date of upcoming blood test and then compare the total to what your TRT amounts should add up to.

Let me be the first to say I'm sure there may be a more precise method, if you want to know your precise theoretical TT number. BUT for comparison of your TT levels, this should give you a comparison that will tell you if you are higher or lower than your TRT level. It will not be precise, because we all use up testosterone a different rates. BUT it will tell you if you are going to be higher or lower, and roughly how much injection amount you have to adjust. It always works for me and should work for anyone else.

 

[copaseet]

Calculation of TT for comparison purposes
Being a touch anal, I personally like to see the numbers. I always use the half life of T and calculate the numbers. When I do a rough calculation for an exact four week time frame for you, I show you a touch over your usual TT numbers. Since (1) you should come in a touch lower as recommended by Halfwit and (2) you had a test come in 40% higher, I would do something a little extra to drop your numbers further. Either skip a pin, lower a pin amount, whatever.

BTW the calculation is easy and very helpful for comparison purposes.
The half life of T is about 7 to 10 days and the calculation is easy if you assume 7 days (the prev weeks injection is halved every upcoming week). To explain further you add the last 4 to 6 weeks amount of injections in this manner to find your present level: for this week add full amount of injection; last week add 1/2 the actual injection amount; the week before last week use 1/4; etc.
On paper calculate the numbers back 4 to 6 weeks from the date of upcoming blood test and then compare the total to what your TRT amounts should add up to.

Let me be the first to say I'm sure there may be a more precise method, if you want to know your precise theoretical TT number. BUT for comparison of your TT levels, this should give you a comparison that will tell you if you are higher or lower than your TRT level. It will not be precise, because we all use up testosterone a different rates. BUT it will tell you if you are going to be higher or lower, and roughly how much injection amount you have to adjust. It always works for me and should work for anyone else.

I would love to see this in a formula... I.e week 1, week 2 injection 500mg, T levels 3000... Week 3,4,5,6 = x, injection amount to get you down to 1200

 

[carverelli]

This is the main reason I handle my own trt and blood work.
Seemed like a big hassle to be all legit.

You can switch to test prop as well a month out from trt test labs. That gives the cyp( or enth) time to clear and gives you more control over dosing and clearing in the short term. 10 days out with prop dose it down to 40-50 mg eod. Check it with personal labs 4-5 days out and then pin accordingly

 

[halfape211]

I would love to see this in a formula... I.e week 1, week 2 injection 500mg, T levels 3000... Week 3,4,5,6 = x, injection amount to get you down to 1200

Can you give me what your TRT weekly test amount is supposed to be and how many days to you blood test? sometimes I use a spreadsheet, but not necessary.

 

[copaseet]

Can you give me what your TRT weekly test amount is supposed to be and how many days to you blood test? sometimes I use a spreadsheet, but not necessary.

4 weeks until test... Should be 800

 

[halfape211]

4 weeks until test... Should be 800

Damn! I worked it out and had a post almost done when I realized you are using Test Enanthate which has a 10.5 day half life. I use Test Cypionate which has a half life usually around 7 days, which is really easy to do calculations on. I'll try to recalculate. Meanwhile I think you are saying that you will be using 200/week of Test E for the next four weeks?

 

[halfape211]

OK. When I post something on here. I want to feel I can back it strongly. Because I have never tried this with Test E and because the calculations are different with Test E, I can only partially endorse my calculation. My calculation shows you would have about 70cc more of test E in your body than you usually would if you were only TRT (at the time of blood test). That would mean that you reduce your last weeks injection by 70cc. I would strongly suggest you do some blood tests as others have suggested to make sure you are in line. With such a long ester in Test E you are going to be over your TRT levels IMO, if you do not do something.

If you were using Test Cyp, you would only have had to decrease your last weeks injection by 42cc. And I would stand by that projection.


I cannot say if the effects of NPP & tbo are going to effect your blood test. I willingly state I do not have knowledge of NPP or what ever tbo is

As you know HCG will increase test in your body, but I assume you always take that, although 1500 is a huge amount

Best of luck

 

[copaseet]

my TRT dose is 100mg a week, with 1500iu HCG a week... That dose had me outside the normal range by about 10 percent.. Think it was around 1300 ng/DL.... Then I started a blast and went to see my endo, 2 weeks into the blast (bloods were taken prior).... And I was high, so endo wants me to come back in 5 weeks and recheck.... So I aborted the blast and am going to wait 2 weeks from my last blast shot... To go back on TRT dose, but only at 75mg a week, so I for sure come under and get back on the blast... And hopefully not have to see him for 6 months