zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
Obviously 250mg is not enough for him and generally no, I don't think 250mg is enough. Do think that 500mg is excessive in any way?
Upping test from 250 to 400 mgs\week?
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Obviously 250mg is not enough for him and generally no, I don't think 250mg is enough. Do think that 500mg is excessive in any way?
Monstar
Decorated Vet
Can you explain why 250mgs is not enough. And 500mgs is not excessive.
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
500mg will be enough to saturate the androgen receptors, whereas 250mg may not be. As your shut down whether it’s 250mg of 500mg then I’d say get the most out of it and do the 500mg
I've also been cruising almost all this year and for me I know that 250mg is just maintenance dose for me.
Also a double-blind, randomized study showing that increase in muscle size, strength and power were dose dependent
Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men -- Bhasin et al. 281 (6): E1172 -- AJP - Endocrinology and Metabolism
Tell me what you think the benefits are of doing 250mg verses 500mg?
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Alozade
slingin ya-yo
pct should not be underestimated, sadly many times it is.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/classics/47024-my-pct-protocol.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/classics/47024-my-pct-protocol.html
Alozade
slingin ya-yo
lol. I wish.
Monstar
Decorated Vet
For being first cycle i would say thats a good start at 250. Benifits wise i would say you'd get good gains off that. Have you ever had blood test done to show what your test levels are are 250mgs?
krazydave7
New member
ALOZADE - Agreed on both accounts of your previous statement concerning PCT
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
Lol, well I really was hoping for a more informed discussion.
Yes I have and that's not the issue. Your obviously just being pedantic. You have not offered any reasonable argument for your belief that 250mg will give you good gains or why it is better for a first cycle or as per my question “what are the benefits of doing 250mg verses 500mg?” other than "I would say" have you?
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Monstar
Decorated Vet
Well i had great good gains off 250mgs and it wasn't my first cycle, i noticed very little difference in the jump to 500mgs. But not that i usually do 500mgs i don't think i'd drop back down. What i'm saying is that when i had my blood work done from doing testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at 100mgs a week my test levels were double.
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
Your gains will also obviously depend on a number of other factors, did you change your diet/training how close you are/were to you natural limit, were you just running test.
Because your test levels were doubled does not mean that your androgen receptors were saturated.
I'm not disagreeing with you that 250mg will do something, just that 500mg is potentially better. Also as your your already shutdown on 250mg, where is the downside of running 500mg if you can get better results? The first cycle is where they also stand to get the most gains, so do 500mg is what I say and get the most they can out of the stuff
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