Var+Creatine (any advice would be great)

[getlikeme]

I plan on taking Anavar (var) 50mg ed along with 10g creatine for 6 weeks. Asking any advice and i want to know if this is gonna kill my sex drive? Also what kind of creatine would be best? My goals are to gain about 10 lbs lbm and drop a few % bf

Stats:
19 M
6'1"
175
12-13% bf

Cardio:
5-6 Times a week
low to moderate intensity 20-60 Min

Diet:
IMO fairly clean diet, but not the most educated in this
1. fiber one bar
2. low carb protein shake
3. salad w/carrots cucumbers brocoli and serving size of low cal Italian dressing, two turkey sandwiches with lettuce
4. Low carb protein shake (post workout)
5. 3 sandwiches lots of turkey, mixed veggies
I eat just about as healthy as i can considering i'm at college and pizza and hamburgers are everywhere

please post your thoughts on this thanks a lot.

And yes i know i should wait a while before doing this, but I've been on this diet for about 3-4 months along with thermogenics and i still cant seem to get my bf% down.

 

[ezred]

What thermogenics have you been on? You might try the ECA stack or clen or t3 if you want to try to break your fat loss plateau.

I plan on taking Anavar (var) 50mg ed along with 10g creatine for 6 weeks. Asking any advice and i want to know if this is gonna kill my sex drive? Also what kind of creatine would be best? My goals are to gain about 10 lbs lbm and drop a few % bf

Stats:
19 M
6'1"
175
12-13% bf

Cardio:
5-6 Times a week
low to moderate intensity 20-60 Min

Diet:
IMO fairly clean diet, but not the most educated in this
1. fiber one bar
2. low carb protein shake
3. salad w/carrots cucumbers brocoli and serving size of low cal Italian dressing, two turkey sandwiches with lettuce
4. Low carb protein shake (post workout)
5. 3 sandwiches lots of turkey, mixed veggies
I eat just about as healthy as i can considering i'm at college and pizza and hamburgers are everywhere

please post your thoughts on this thanks a lot.

And yes i know i should wait a while before doing this, but I've been on this diet for about 3-4 months along with thermogenics and i still cant seem to get my bf% down.

 

[getlikeme]

I was taking Oxyelite pro... i was told it was the leading thermogenic available.
But i wont be able to gain any weight with clen, t3, or eca stack like i will be able to with Anavar (var) and creatine right?
i am hoping to break my plateau and also gain a little mass

 

[ezred]

I was taking Oxyelite pro... i was told it was the leading thermogenic available.
But i wont be able to gain any weight with clen, t3, or eca stack like i will be able to with Anavar (var) and creatine right?
i am hoping to break my plateau and also gain a little mass

you're probably going to want to settle on one or the other, or get into a full normal cycle but incorporate some clen and/or t3.

you could try Anavar (var) + clen and/or t3 to try to hold on to your lean mass while melting fat and then drop the burners when you've cut some.

i don't see Anavar (var) and creatine as a very effective cutter.

 

[djm6464]

I was taking Oxyelite pro... i was told it was the leading thermogenic available.
But i wont be able to gain any weight with clen, t3, or eca stack like i will be able to with Anavar (var) and creatine right?
i am hoping to break my plateau and also gain a little mass

forget about 10lbs with var,especially without test and for only 6wks, also Anavar (var) is excellent with a low bf%, you arent close enough. i think you are not losing the bf because you dont eat enough! i know its fkd, but it sounds that after months of this calorie restricitve diet, your body obviously adjusted and is hoarding the fat to compensate for the little food you eat.

id suggest stagger you diet more so as you have days with high cals vas day with low, to keep your body guessing

ex:
mon low cals
tues +500 cals
wed +1000cals (using mon as a starting point)
thurs +1500cals
fri low cals
sat (repeat)

adjust the calories to maybe 250/500/750, but i think this is a better approach, your body is extremely intelligent and an addapt to anything, you plateaued cause you need to surprise you body

iv used oep and thought it was the best otc burner,clen, or even better cyx3 kill it...dont bother with the Anavar (var) you will be dissapointed

 

[djm6464]

you're probably going to want to settle on one or the other, or get into a full normal cycle but incorporate some clen and/or t3.

you could try Anavar (var) + clen and/or t3 to try to hold on to your lean mass while melting fat and then drop the burners when you've cut some.

i don't see Anavar (var) and creatine as a very effective cutter.

var has anticatabolic properites so i could see this working too, i doubt the 10lbs+, but fat loss yes, however i still think his diet is the problem

 

[getlikeme]

Thanks for both inputs... i see what you're saying on the diet part i've never thought about it that way.

also do either of you have suggestions for test/var cycle? like what test and how long for both.... and pct i'm fairly knowledgable on test and Anavar (var) but i don't know a lot about the correct pct

 

[djm6464]

Thanks for both inputs... i see what you're saying on the diet part i've never thought about it that way.

also do either of you have suggestions for test/var cycle? like what test and how long for both.... and pct i'm fairly knowledgable on test and Anavar (var) but i don't know a lot about the correct pct

im doing a simple test/var cycle right now

wk 1-12 500mg test cyp wk (now i know enth is better, cyp is fkn slow)
wk 8-14 60-70mg Anavar (var) ed
wk 1-18 aromasin 12.5mg ed
wk 3-13 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu e4d
wk 15-18 torem 120-90/60/60/60

using it mainly to recomp/harden up, 10lbs would be great, im in wk 5 up 6-7lbs

 

[getlikeme]

okay what should my diet look like?
calories
carbs
fats
Protein

And also this will be my first cycle so would you suggest any changes?

 

[djm6464]

okay what should my diet look like?
calories
carbs
fats
Protein

And also this will be my first cycle so would you suggest any changes?

do what you are doing, but add more cals on certian days, find stuff you like, its not hard, no need for a plan....throw some fruit and peanut butter (2 heaping spoons) into your shakes, theres 300cals right there, in one shake, throw some jam ontop of your oatmeal, ect

 

[getlikeme]

Thanks a lot, one more question: would it be possible to run test E at 500mg a week for 1-10 then Anavar (var) 6-12 etc...??

 

[djm6464]

Thanks a lot, one more question: would it be possible to run test E at 500mg a week for 1-10 then Anavar (var) 6-12 etc...??

sure

 

[llD3MONll]

my opinion is


creatine is a bloating supplement that holds like 5-7lbs of water. this is a good supp when off of juice by far. but you dont need it what so ever when on juice.

along with Anavar (var) lol no way

doesnt sound good to me. run some test and Anavar (var) and do it the right way. your liver will thank you when you 30 for not running oral only cycles. orals anyways r a bad idea to me

 

[getlikeme]

my opinion is


creatine is a bloating supplement that holds like 5-7lbs of water. this is a good supp when off of juice by far. but you dont need it what so ever when on juice.

along with Anavar (var) lol no way

doesnt sound good to me. run some test and Anavar (var) and do it the right way. your liver will thank you when you 30 for not running oral only cycles. orals anyways r a bad idea to me

Thanks a lot, i'm new to all of this so what would be a good test Anavar (var) cycle?

not knocking djm's cycle just want all possible views and opinions.

 

[ezred]

Thanks a lot, i'm new to all of this so what would be a good test Anavar (var) cycle?

not knocking djm's cycle just want all possible views and opinions.

you could try a similar structure but instead of starting the Anavar (var) at the end start it at the beginning and run it for a few weeks till the test kicks in, then stop for a few and run it again towards the end and thru post cycle therapy (pct) like he is doing. will help push some strength gains through the first few weeks before your test is really flowing at full effect. i would maybe even start it before the test, 1 or 2 weeks.... it takes probably 2-3 weeks to start kicking it. if you run it a couple of weeks you'll be able to establish for yourself how your body handles Anavar (var) and if you even think it will be worth it to run again at the end.

people evaluate Anavar (var) so differently, honestly some of it seems to be them probably not knowing how the Anavar (var) is acting because of the presence of other compounds, etc. that might be off but that's how it seems to me.

either way, you need to know what the effects will be for you, so starting a week or two before your test seems reasonable to me to get it flowing as you are starting into your test, feel it's effects for a few weeks then go off as the test is hitting and at that point you'll know whether you want to run it at the end again or what. if you don't get as much out of it as you were hoping for it's not worth spending the extra money to run it consistently.

depending on your source you could make the ending run of Anavar (var) a game-time decision and not buy it all up front. of course, delivery time, shipping costs, etc., would all come in to play there and that might not make sense for you.

 

[getlikeme]

okay so how does this look?

wk 1-5 50 mg Anavar (var) ed
wk 3-13 Test e 500 mg
wk 10-15 50 mg Anavar (var) ed (if i like results in first 2 weeks)
wk 5-14 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) iu e4d
wk 14-17 torem 120-90/60/60/60
Aromasin?? this is very pricey, is there an alternative?

 

[djm6464]

okay so how does this look?

wk 1-5 50 mg Anavar (var) ed
wk 3-13 Test e 500 mg
wk 10-15 50 mg Anavar (var) ed (if i like results in first 2 weeks)
wk 5-14 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) iu e4d
wk 14-17 torem 120-90/60/60/60
Aromasin?? this is very pricey, is there an alternative?

wk 1-12 test
wk 8-14 var
wk 3-13 hcg
wk 15-18 torem
aromasin is good to have around, but you may not need it...its not pricey, rui has exemestane, if you can buy torem, aromasin is the same price, i wouldnt start without an AI

 

[ezred]

okay so how does this look?

wk 1-5 50 mg Anavar (var) ed
wk 3-13 Test e 500 mg
wk 10-15 50 mg Anavar (var) ed (if i like results in first 2 weeks)
wk 5-14 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) iu e4d
wk 14-17 torem 120-90/60/60/60
Aromasin?? this is very pricey, is there an alternative?

if you think you might want to try using Anavar (var) in that way then that doesn't look bad although i personally would probably pull the test use out to 12 weeks or so and really probably start the test 1 week after starting Anavar (var) to get some exogenous test into my system before my natty test gets put down too hard, but that's just me.

again, starting the Anavar (var) before the test is totally just an idea that seems like it could have a logical benefit to me. you don't have to run with that if you don't want to, and experienced users might have an opinion on that to the contrary.

i've heard so much talk about Anavar (var) on both of the spectrum from people who have experience with it. half of people say it's garbage and not worth taking... half say it is awesome and love taking it, or love taking it when they can afford it.

 

[Shaptown]

my opinion is


creatine is a bloating supplement that holds like 5-7lbs of water. this is a good supp when off of juice by far. but you dont need it what so ever when on juice.

along with Anavar (var) lol no way

doesnt sound good to me. run some test and Anavar (var) and do it the right way. your liver will thank you when you 30 for not running oral only cycles. orals anyways r a bad idea to me

Your opinion is completely incorrect actually, and likely originates from a place not containing referenced studies. Do a simple search, and you will come up with an absolutely amazing thread with a plethora of information regarding why Creatine utilization during concurrent AAS cycle running is an absolutely fantastic idea. Simply, all that nitrate retention without some positive phosphate retention will not work wonders...

 

[getlikeme]

Your opinion is completely incorrect actually, and likely originates from a place not containing referenced studies. Do a simple search, and you will come up with an absolutely amazing thread with a plethora of information regarding why Creatine utilization during concurrent AAS cycle running is an absolutely fantastic idea. Simply, all that nitrate retention without some positive phosphate retention will not work wonders...

So shaptown, would it be possible to gain 10lbs with var/creatine? I've read a lot and Im pretty sure Anavar (var) makes the absorption of creatine a lot easier for the body... which would make me think that i could come up with so really good strength gains and about 10lbs of lbm.... i've seen where people have done it before and have gotten great results. i think its really all gonna be about my diet and weights