Id like to see anyone gain fat on tren you have to be a dumbass and eat complete shit tonpull that off
Weak gains from test after 3 cycles, should I try a different compound or give up?
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Id like to see anyone gain fat on tren you have to be a dumbass and eat complete shit tonpull that off
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Low dose test high dose tren and I think it is literally impossible even with the worst diet. You would have to eat like shit and also have some horrible genetics that don't play nice with tren.
bobbywest213
New member
That's what I was thinking, I will probably try tren next time. Thanks.
Some people seem to get anxiety or cant handle insomnia wich causes mood swings as well as high e2 can do the same. Good thing with ace you can just stop pinning and it clears the system pretty quick. As far as toxicity I don't believe it because my blood work always says its not, i believe people are doing something else and getting bad blood work.
But dont take my word for it test before, during, after cycle then you will know always stay hydrated no matter what im sure you know that. Ive learned certain things you have to learn on your own were all different and respond better to different things
HulkSmashh
New member
@op
Dont run tren ur only 3 cycles in. Yes test only isnt gonna make u an animal but ill tell u what if ur diet and training is spot on ill yield phenominal results. It really depends on your overall goals.
Safe bets to add are decca, eq, anavar, masterone "with low bf%,
^ im not saying take all those together either one will do good. Start low doses see how your body re-acts and enjoy.
But yeah you can always bump your test a lil change your diet
Dont run tren ur only 3 cycles in. Yes test only isnt gonna make u an animal but ill tell u what if ur diet and training is spot on ill yield phenominal results. It really depends on your overall goals.
Safe bets to add are decca, eq, anavar, masterone "with low bf%,
^ im not saying take all those together either one will do good. Start low doses see how your body re-acts and enjoy.
But yeah you can always bump your test a lil change your diet
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
i suggest running deca.. doing your research and dialing in ai's
up your volume in training, hire 3js here on the forum for monitoring/ adjusting diet
tren is most likely going to be a negative experience this early in your aas adventure
if you run deca, diet deffinatley on point with 3js, and bump up volume in training - you will have to gain
save tren for when you've already cycled with deca a couple times and have added some serious mas, have diet and training really dialed in.
tren is fucking toxic - i give zero fucks what anyone here has to say about it - tren IS toxic, save it for a finishing touch once you have a few years of training with aas already under your belt and can gauge wether th gains vs sides are worth it for you
up your volume in training, hire 3js here on the forum for monitoring/ adjusting diet
tren is most likely going to be a negative experience this early in your aas adventure
if you run deca, diet deffinatley on point with 3js, and bump up volume in training - you will have to gain
save tren for when you've already cycled with deca a couple times and have added some serious mas, have diet and training really dialed in.
tren is fucking toxic - i give zero fucks what anyone here has to say about it - tren IS toxic, save it for a finishing touch once you have a few years of training with aas already under your belt and can gauge wether th gains vs sides are worth it for you
Well awsome can you prove its toxic? I know its nice to repeat what you read and what everyone says but can you prove it? Ive been running tren pretty much all year have had blood work and exepted for life insurance just got a routine check up like 2 months ago everything exept good cholesterol was normal. How much experience do you have with tren? How did you come to that conclusion? I use to say the same shit because thats all you here on the Internet youll never catch me giving advice or saying anything unless i have hands on experience doing it.
If tylenol can kill everyone one of us if we drink the whole bottle there is not gonna be one guy on this forum that handles it different if something is toxic its fucking toxic to everyone. Do a test for everyone run trt dose test take before bloodwork ill send you some good ass tren run that whole bottle then do bloodwork if your not on prescription drugs or dont drink alcohol i guarantee your not gonna have issues prove me wrong ill pay for one of your blood tests
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Bro bash weed and alcohol all you want, but don't fuck with my preworkout samples bud. Nothing toxic about a healthy proprietary blend (sweetened battery acid, caffeine, creatine) of preworkout goodness.
Sorry bro lol but honestly my chick went to the hospital from drinking a preworkout she had a bad reaction and seemed like her nervous system was all fucked up. I use to drink that shitreligiously until i realize what it did to my bp not to mention it made me feel like shit once it wore off. You here of pw getting banned all the time theres no control of what they put in them same goes for hormones but i have a great source i completely trust, takes a while until you find the right chef
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
you seriously going to argue tren isn't toxic..
what I've READ? don't insult me
the only compound- the ONLY one that tells me - lets know when its time to cycle off - makes me sweat buckets in my sleep , gives me insomnia, crushes cardio down to nothing, makes me piss orange raises bp and pushes aggression through the roof. that isn't something i read about.
and with tren, way easy to go from , this isn't so bad - on top of all the gains, i feel pretty good..
to whoa holy fuck man slow me down
compared to something like deca , so fucking nectar, advancing my health and performance and strength on every front - as much as i like the benefits of tren - the shit IS TOXIC AS FUCK
for someone suggest anybody run their first stacked cycle with tren, its kind of a joke.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
They put a bunch of mystery shit in those things. I remember using one called Craze that is now banned or had a formula change because it had traces of amphetamines in it. I still love them though.
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
and THAT is the truth. I've had shitty reactions form pre work outs too
diff combos can really fuck with people, should be careful with some of the over the counter stuff for sure
You know whats a joke? I just checked your history youve done what maybe 3 tren runs? And you admitted your ace must have been bunk so scratch that cycle off your list. Whats even more funny you just started cycling 10/2014
Dont talk like you know.... i do know "hands on" you know why you had sides you ran tren e wich sucks balls and your gear is probably not up to par i cant blame you on that i ran shit gear for 2 years.
You guys feel a little sweat and think its the end of the world dont eveN run it long enough to shine your body adapts to tren. If you never done bloodwork on tren you dont have the right to comment on its toxicity
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
currently fourth run with tren ace 350 per week ace thats dosed correctly
talk all the shit you want chico, but are you going to argue its not toxic?
OP should go ahead and run his first stack with tren then ?
lol gtfo man
some guys pinning a gram a week have a better time of it than others at 500, true
but even the fucking sides that are "normal" jesus christ - that shit is fucking toxic.
the end
your info is a little off on my aas history.. btw
talk all the shit you want chico, but are you going to argue its not toxic?
OP should go ahead and run his first stack with tren then ?
lol gtfo man
some guys pinning a gram a week have a better time of it than others at 500, true
but even the fucking sides that are "normal" jesus christ - that shit is fucking toxic.
the end
your info is a little off on my aas history.. btw
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tury694
Pale Gorilla
I think different people react differently to tren. Some people start having sides that will no doubt cause health issues and others are fine running it for extended periods of time. I know one guy running it for 5 months now and he loves it, and some can't even tolerate one week. I don't know if toxic is the right word, but any super physiological dosage of any AAS is going to give people some problems, and some compounds are harsher than other and elicit a different reaction depending on the user. I think an oral like drol, halo, or even dbol would be far more detrimental to health. The problem with things like tren is that we don't have any long term studies on the harmful effects it produces in humans as it is not made for humans, but even with AAS prescribed to humans there is a lack of long term studies.
What is it with all you guys with mexican jokes? Chico? Lol well your no different check your early posts you were using a pretty long list wich included deca and tren. Im not talking shit this is real i have been on a year and had several blood tests its not like im immune. What you experience is sides caused by a number of things it doesnt mean its toxic drinking alcohol is way mkre toxic than tren put it that way. I think its safe to say you dont qualify to argue your just parroting everything just like i did when i started. Sides can also be caused by impurities in the tren its very important to find a top of the line source.
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
im scandenavian. feel free to call me bjorn sven gunnar lief helmut etc..
back to business..
so tren isnt toxic.
gotcha. have a great day
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