What do you guys consider abusing AAS to be?

cdiggity

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So one thing that I notice over and over when researching AAS is people differentiating between Use and Abuse. I just wanted to get some more experience'd peoples opinion on what they consider abuse to be. So...for you, when does it cross the line?
 
Imo for the average non bodybuilder anything over a gram of test a week is abuse. Or 700mg of tren a week to name a couple.
 
I would say when it gets to a stage where the risks far outweigh the rewards, yet you still take the very risky route. There is a stage where such high doses won't even make much of a difference. When all you think about is when is my next cycle, then you know your life must change.
 
If one still maintains their pre-AAS test count when off cycle I wouldn't say there is any abuse. But when running cycles years on end that is easier said than done.
 
Abusing could be also related to the length of cycle.. I never go over 12 weeks, and mostly I am in 10 weeks, I'm a big fan of prop and other short esters now.
 
Not getting every last drop out of that vial and tossing it into the trash? I mean come on, hormones have feelings too! :D








Or those guys that run a Test/Tren/Mast/Winny/Dbol/Anavar/EQ cycle and weigh 149lbs. Take your pick. :)
 
I would say abuse is defined by taking anything over testosterone replacement dosages. But In our warped minds abuse is something we have twisted to suit are needs. Ha ha ha ha that is sooo true. Because I consider abuse personally to be where you know irreversible effects are going to happen and you are just flipping the coin with every cycle. For example like 15 iu's of hgh a day, 1000 mgs of testosterone, 1000 mgs of tren, 500 mgs of anadrol, insulin, 150 mgs of dbol, 1500 mgs of eq, pretty much anything that starts to resemble a Olympian stack cycle is abuse. But in my mind you do what you gotta do to be the best so if you are competing at high enough levels I wouldn't consider it abuse I would consider it occupational hazards. But realistically abuse is when the normal guy starts to get around a gram or more of steroids a week. The bad effects really start around that area.
 
It differs from person to person. A pro BB whos on a gram of test after his cycle to cruise till the next cycle is not abuse but part of the job regiment. An average joe who just finished a cycle of test/deca/dbol and stays on a .5 gram of test because he is afraid of loosing his gains can be considered abuse or going from one auxikiary chem like from bold to deca to tren with out giving the body time to detox can be construed as abuse. When your looking at your last bottle of test and ur source is busted and you will take a stupid ass chance in getting busted to score another bottle of test...yeah u have an issue.
 
Personally abuse would entail the mindset of thinking you need AAS rather than thinking it can help. As old&stacked says dosages differ from person to person based on requirements so you can't go by dosing but when you start to think you need it and can't continue without it you've crossed tap hat fine line. This doesn't apply to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients since they technically need it to get to normal levels.
 
Would argue use is abuse
But, I am guilty

Not getting off, or getting off for 6-10 weeks and jumping back on is abuse IMO
Dat dere addiction
 
So one thing that I notice over and over when researching AAS is people differentiating between Use and Abuse. I just wanted to get some more experience'd peoples opinion on what they consider abuse to be. So...for you, when does it cross the line?

the terms dont fit the meanings with us haha. use of hormones would be taking them to correct a medical issue. abuse is what we do.

as far as crossing the line goes. theres no real full proof way of knowing where that line is but it is safe to say the more you take and the more frequently you take it the more you risk.
 
Not getting every last drop out of that vial and tossing it into the trash? I mean come on, hormones have feelings too! :D








Or those guys that run a Test/Tren/Mast/Winny/Dbol/Anavar/EQ cycle and weigh 149lbs. Take your pick. :)

not getting every drop out of the vial, shit i suck on the needle when i'm done pinning just to make sure i got it all!!!! lol j/k by the way any newbs reading this it was a joke don't do that
 
but seriously though i consider abuse when all the proper protocols that we take like pct,AI,cycle length are not followed or completely ignored
 
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