What gains Can I expect?
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StoneColdNTO
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Gains will be dependant on diet, training, and rest.
Drop the Deca & Winstrol (winny). Increase the Test to 500mg/week.
Replace Arimidex with Aromasin if you can. If not, take the Arimidex at .5mg EOD
What have you planned for PCT?
Drop the Deca & Winstrol (winny). Increase the Test to 500mg/week.
Replace Arimidex with Aromasin if you can. If not, take the Arimidex at .5mg EOD
What have you planned for PCT?
SuperMarty
New member
Not enough Test. Not enough Deca. That is alot of Winstrol (winny). Do without the Adex unless you find you need it. Gain estimates are directly proportional to "how hard will you work." Good set up though. Test, a 19-nor and a DHT. Good set up.
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
Agreed....
Disagree......should not even run Deca on a first cycle.
You serious.....50mg EOD, but again he should NOT be stacking on a first cycle.
Totally disagree....NOT for a FIRST cycle
outlawtas
New member
Agreed with SC...
Stick with a basic 500mg/wk test only cycle at first. How much will you gain? That's a very open question. Put it this way, you'll get out what you put in - and if you work hard you will be satisfied.
BTW standard dosage for Winstrol (winny) is 50mg ED...so 50 EOD definitely not too much. But it's not going to do anything for you cycle anyways.
The resason you want to run test only for your first cycle is because you want to judge your reaction to it...if you get positive or negative side effects you want to be able to use the process of elimination. If you take 2 different steroids on your first cycle and have a negative reaction, how will you know which one caused it?
Stick with a basic 500mg/wk test only cycle at first. How much will you gain? That's a very open question. Put it this way, you'll get out what you put in - and if you work hard you will be satisfied.
BTW standard dosage for Winstrol (winny) is 50mg ED...so 50 EOD definitely not too much. But it's not going to do anything for you cycle anyways.
The resason you want to run test only for your first cycle is because you want to judge your reaction to it...if you get positive or negative side effects you want to be able to use the process of elimination. If you take 2 different steroids on your first cycle and have a negative reaction, how will you know which one caused it?
Warmachine
Your Girls Pay my Bills
test is best. 500mg/a week is not "light" either. 250 is light, and youll see gains WITHOUT sides. at 500mg a week i battle gyno and anxiety, its a strong cycle
gains are dependant on diet. at 1000 calories a day to what you eat now and some creatine too. youll gain between 10-25lbs dependant on your metabolism and training.
switch to a powerlifting routine and youll gain 20lbs + no fucking problem.
gains are dependant on diet. at 1000 calories a day to what you eat now and some creatine too. youll gain between 10-25lbs dependant on your metabolism and training.
switch to a powerlifting routine and youll gain 20lbs + no fucking problem.
Ozzy27
Olympian Bodybuilder
Go with a straight test cycle like stone said and your gains will be "your gains" not someone elses. Everyone responds differently to different gear. You could be a freak and do amazingly well with 500mg ew of test-e.
But none the less you will be pleased with what you get from 500mg of test-e....as long as you eat clean and eat BIG!
But none the less you will be pleased with what you get from 500mg of test-e....as long as you eat clean and eat BIG!
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