what is risk of becoming infertile using gear - only HCG + testoterone with primo

[rikardo82]

Long time thinking about steroids if I had naturally high T like 700-1000 most likely I would not consider that as option but since MY T is pretty low and within past 2 years nothing seems to work to get situation better then I start to think I have nothing to loose anyway.... if I will need to use TRT for life so what BUT
one thing I'm still concerned - fertility
Yes I know HCG BUT what are odds even with HCG to become sterile for life???
I know there is aslo HMG seems even better as HCG but still what is risk ??? If any ? Anyone heard someone fucked up his life permanently becoming infertile???
about me:
30 y old male 220lbs 6'3 bf ~13-14% I have visible abs when standing but nothing impressive
I have trained 3+ years constantly MY best lifts are BP 290lbs SQ 290lbs (I know not much just not my favorite lift) DL 430lbs
my plan is to use test E 500mg 2x week 250iu HCG twice a week 1st cycle next cycle maybe add primobolon
about my T levels 15 moths ago I did a test it came back to 350 and i have done lot more tests and all time come back 360-380 no matter what I do supplements have tried almost anything, diet healthy - avocados, nuts, steaks, eggs, oats olive oil coconut oils lot of vegetables broccoli parsley spinach etc no processed shit etc etc sleep at least 8-9H no masturbation for week sometimes 1 month no big difference either, no porn, intermittent fasting for half a year then again normal eating for 1 week no difference either...
MY LH was 3.6 last time before one year 2.6 no difference in T though...?
FSH 3.1
thyroids panel normal
prolactin 188
estradiol 30-36
That's it. I'm now thinking with attitude I have nothing to loose anyway... except fertility so if anyone has some opinion and experience heard from others please share!!! Thanks

 

[bigpapabuff]

I havent heard of many that were on trt that wanted to conceive that were unable too. It seems that clomid therapy and HMG seem to be able to overcome potential fertility issues. In fact I know of many cases where people on trt conceived a child with no assistance at all.

 

[halfwit]

Unfortunately nobody can give you an exact number. HCG studies however do show a great deal of promise, and I believe there was a link to one recently in the TRT forums showing that virtually all TRT patients in the study were able to conceive children while on HCG and TRT.

However, if this is a large concern, you can always bank some swimmers for later. Think of it as an insurance policy.

My .02c

 

[anzel]

Unfortunately nobody can give you an exact number. HCG studies however do show a great deal of promise, and I believe there was a link to one recently in the TRT forums showing that virtually all TRT patients in the study were able to conceive children while on HCG and TRT.

However, if this is a large concern, you can always bank some swimmers for later. Think of it as an insurance policy.

My .02c

...and we are talking 250 iu 2x/wk correct?

 

[halfwit]

...and we are talking 250 iu 2x/wk correct?

I don't remember the doses in the quoted study, but that's the typical dose used to maintain testicular function.

 

[Teutonic]

I got a 22 prego on deca 300 and test 500 so ther e s that...and 20 months ago I had a cancerous tumor cut and irradiated off my prostate and not to be gross but my volume of semen is double now and my orgasms last for a 10-12 second wonderfully satisfying ordeal. But it s cuz of my manly face.....

 

[PrinceDianabol]

I got a 22 prego on deca 300 and test 500 so ther e s that...and 20 months ago I had a cancerous tumor cut and irradiated off my prostate and not to be gross but my volume of semen is double now and my orgasms last for a 10-12 second wonderfully satisfying ordeal. But it s cuz of my manly face.....

Half the prostate = double the orgasm? Sign me up!! Lol

 

[Rastas]

Teutonic, you are the funniest "I don't give a fuck" cunt on this forum. I'd love to share a beer with you. Or a Thai prostitute. Seriously. I'm not trying to piss in your pocket, but 'Ology wouldn't be the same without your one-eyed bullet riddled rig.

 

[Teutonic]

Prince----they did not remove any prostrate but a tumour around it. And as you know it s a cum bag surrounded by nerver s waiting for the proper amount of stim to blow. So for god know s how long I was "half cocked". After the operations and chemo I did my best to drown as many cum buckets as I could....or paint a town red and they re women white. ( Kid Rock)

Rastas when I m finally so beat down the only thing I can do is hobble in somewhere my dream is to die in Bankok with a 99 pd beauty banging my cock while her friend holds the lighter to my opiate pipe---coming and going out in style with a smile walking that green mile.

 

[copaseet]

@Teutonic


Did they say the tumor was related to TRT?... how long have you been on TRT? .... how recent is your avatar pic?

 

[bigtimechief]

Logged several cycles before getting the wife prego, while ON cycle. I use HCG always, however. Son on the way. So much for the rumor that gear users have girls on cycle. Have you heard that one?

EDIT: Had a sonogram. Already looking vascular

 

[halfwit]

Teutonic, you are the funniest "I don't give a fuck" cunt on this forum. I'd love to share a beer with you. Or a Thai prostitute. Seriously. I'm not trying to piss in your pocket, but 'Ology wouldn't be the same without your one-eyed bullet riddled rig.

Seconded. Teutonic is THE man!


A 12 second orgasm... good lord, I can't imagine the ab pumps from that lol.

 

[Rastas]

Logged several cycles before getting the wife prego, while ON cycle. I use HCG always, however. Son on the way. So much for the rumor that gear users have girls on cycle. Have you heard that one?

EDIT: Had a sonogram. Already looking vascular

No word of a lie, just half an hour ago my mrs took a pregnancy test because her tits are busting out of a DD (she's only 5'3" about 120lbs and quite skinny) and she hasn't been on the blob for about 2 months. Now, she does have an Implanon implant which lasts three years, but there have been cases of women getting pregnant on it. She still gets her rags monthly (except this time) and it's been a year with the implant. I'm on near 3 grams of gear BUT I run HCG religiously. I had that gut wrenching feeling I'd given her a magical cream pie, but not to be... THIS TIME.

Blokes have had sperm count readings up to three times that of a non-TRT patient with the use of HCG on cycle/TRT. This BS about being on gear and being infertile is a joke. I don't have any PubMed articles to show you as I haven't looked but there are studies out there if you search.

 

[rikardo82]

No word of a lie, just half an hour ago my mrs took a pregnancy test because her tits are busting out of a DD (she's only 5'3" about 120lbs and quite skinny) and she hasn't been on the blob for about 2 months. Now, she does have an Implanon implant which lasts three years, but there have been cases of women getting pregnant on it. She still gets her rags monthly (except this time) and it's been a year with the implant. I'm on near 3 grams of gear BUT I run HCG religiously. I had that gut wrenching feeling I'd given her a magical cream pie, but not to be... THIS TIME.

Blokes have had sperm count readings up to three times that of a non-TRT patient with the use of HCG on cycle/TRT. This BS about being on gear and being infertile is a joke. I don't have any PubMed articles to show you as I haven't looked but there are studies out there if you search.

what your are using as these 3 grams ???

 

[Teutonic]

@Teutonic


Did they say the tumor was related to TRT?... how long have you been on TRT? .... how recent is your avatar pic?

Avatar on my 51 b day3 month s old ?

No direct link to trt-----genetics...pure breeds are riddled w problem if you ve ever breeded dogs and IM pure germjan euro trash