What Is Your Max Bench?????

sugarplum said:
nobody should, IMO.

out of curiousity... why?

I have alot of problems with shoulder pain on a reg bench and reg incline bench (that may be because of the incline level). Besides, I have gotten significantly stronger on this bench as well.

Thanks for the advice.
 
RJH8541 said:
out of curiousity... why?

I have alot of problems with shoulder pain on a reg bench and reg incline bench (that may be because of the incline level). Besides, I have gotten significantly stronger on this bench as well.

Thanks for the advice.

well, there are a few reasons.
1. the smith machine doesn't allow you to use all the ancillary muscles it takes to stabilize the weight. so although you might be getting stronger on it, your real strength is only as strong as your weakest muscle, and with the smith machine there will be plenty of weak muscles. if you try benching on the regular bench, you'll find you can't bench nearly as much.
2. your natural path is not a straight up and down line. using the smith machine doesn't allow for any change in direction. some say this is safer, but i think it actually sets you up for injuries in other lifts.
3. if your training for strength, its useless cause of #1. if you're training for size, its not using half the muscles you'd still want to workout.

if your shoulder is hurt, have someone take a look at your form- elbows tucked in a bit, and the bar should be brought down to your upper abs, not high on your chest.
 
sugarplum said:
well, there are a few reasons.
1. the smith machine doesn't allow you to use all the ancillary muscles it takes to stabilize the weight. so although you might be getting stronger on it, your real strength is only as strong as your weakest muscle, and with the smith machine there will be plenty of weak muscles. if you try benching on the regular bench, you'll find you can't bench nearly as much.
2. your natural path is not a straight up and down line. using the smith machine doesn't allow for any change in direction. some say this is safer, but i think it actually sets you up for injuries in other lifts.
3. if your training for strength, its useless cause of #1. if you're training for size, its not using half the muscles you'd still want to workout.

if your shoulder is hurt, have someone take a look at your form- elbows tucked in a bit, and the bar should be brought down to your upper abs, not high on your chest.
awesome reply girlie :)
 
255 haven't taken a shot at a max yet. When I heal and get the strenght up I will see what I can throw up.
 
sugarplum said:
well, there are a few reasons.
1. the smith machine doesn't allow you to use all the ancillary muscles it takes to stabilize the weight. so although you might be getting stronger on it, your real strength is only as strong as your weakest muscle, and with the smith machine there will be plenty of weak muscles. if you try benching on the regular bench, you'll find you can't bench nearly as much.
2. your natural path is not a straight up and down line. using the smith machine doesn't allow for any change in direction. some say this is safer, but i think it actually sets you up for injuries in other lifts.
3. if your training for strength, its useless cause of #1. if you're training for size, its not using half the muscles you'd still want to workout.

if your shoulder is hurt, have someone take a look at your form- elbows tucked in a bit, and the bar should be brought down to your upper abs, not high on your chest.

that does make sense. my shoulder mainly gives me trouble when I do the incline like I said, but that may be because of the incline.

I do lift less on a reg bench, but since I am not lifting for raw strength per se, I don't care if I have to go back down in weight a bit. Gives me new reason to get my lifts up!!

Thanks sugar. I luvs me some buff ass chics who knows their shit about training!!
 
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