Ive run around 20 cycles never lasting longer than 4mos,mostly do just 12wks on pct, 12wks off or longer. Started in 99 since lifting ive torn my labrium 4yrs ago had ortho surgery and recently tore my biceps (did this at work) dont know how to post pics will ask my daughter or son, im 242lbs at 5'9 and solid around 12%bf. Just dont lift heavy yr round,im 18wks post surgery for distal biceps tear and still under doc care (already got my next cycle)i know many people over 30-40cycles and still matureing.