why always start with tren a ???

Everyone reaches that point with Tren. One day you wake up and you just know deep down inside that it is time to stop. Your body and mind have hadi enough of the tren. Once you make that decision to end your tren cycle you suddenly feel relieved.

So true. Well said.

I definitely knew when I had enough.
And boy was I relieved when I decided to come off.
 
Everyone reaches that point with Tren. One day you wake up and you just know deep down inside that it is time to stop. Your body and mind have had enough of the tren. Once you make that decision to end your tren cycle you suddenly feel relieved.

mmmh can this happen even with high dose of test like 800-1000mg weekly?
 
That should be most people's approach to learning in general i say. You can learn from the good advice and the bad advice.

i agree, what annoyed me is im getting called arrogant when im making a valid point... those with experience would understand ... tren is crazy no matter what the ester ... running tren a @ 500mg 1 cycle does NOT mean you will be fine running tren a @500mg the next cycle!! therefore running tren a doesnt make any difference because you could run the EXACT same amount with tren e and get sides! so what was the point running the tren a ? i do understand the sense behind it, but no matter which way you look at it - its all a gamble - and theres no pharma tren so good luck finding the exact same dosed batch every time
 
mmmh can this happen even with high dose of test like 800-1000mg weekly?

Yes, but not quite the same feeling. Once you've been on tren long enough, you just stop looking forward to pinning it. Eventually, you forget how much you hate the sides, and remember the awesome potential it has - and start another cycle with it. It's just a toxic blend that really was never intended for long-term use; especially in humans. It's truly an amazing drug, but just something us mere mortals can't stay on indefinitely. :(

OP: You've received a ton of great experience telling you why. Cybr nailed it in that enanthate takes about a month to drop out, while acetate takes around a week and a half. Just one of the sides I get personally is I feel like I'm CONSTANTLY being timed. "How fast can I make breakfast? Tie my shoes? Shit! Gotta get to work NOW! Can I push this training session faster???!" That's a mild side effect too. Tren is NOTHING like any other AAS out there; it just brings things to light you never thought existed mentally. This isn't even getting into the physical sides, which some guys really have issues with, like breathing, insomnia, sweats (especially at night), heart burn, liver distress, kidney distress, blood pressure, heart rate increases, dehydration, sensitivity to heat, painful cramping/pumps/spasms, et cetera.

Would you want to go through ALL of those (if you're unlucky, it's possible) for A MONTH? I don't care how manly someone is, just the physical sides can put a serious kink in one's quality of life - the mental ones on TOP OF that? Yeah, best of luck. :)

My .02c :wiggle:
 
I view tren like a roller coaster. It is a thrilling ride, filled with excitement but also fear - and once you start you are on the ride until it ends. That ride can be short or long, you should ride a short one to find out how much you love and hate roller coasters before riding the long one...there is no way off once the ride begins!
 
I view tren like a roller coaster. It is a thrilling ride, filled with excitement but also fear - and once you start you are on the ride until it ends. That ride can be short or long, you should ride a short one to find out how much you love and hate roller coasters before riding the long one...there is no way off once the ride begins!

Sounds like a good movie :) Well put :)
 
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